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'Everyone blames us': Kiwi ref's take on the Ewels' red card

Ben O'Keeffe (Photo by Steve Bardens - RFU/The RFU Collection via Getty Images)

England’s second-minute red card to Charlie Ewels against Ireland has raised conjecture around the punishment for high tackles, with ex-All Black John Kirwan calling for the 20-minute red card rule to be re-introduced globally.

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Referee Ben O’Keeffe, a guest panelist on The Breakdown, largely agreed with Kirwan’s view and offered in an insight into the processes the referee must go through to make the decision.

“I keep saying, it’s about the rules and how we need to get rid of some and change some,” Kirwan said.

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“The red card on the weekend is just another moment where people are paying decent money going to a game and it’s being wrecked.

“The Northern Hemisphere did not want the 20-minute rule. I just think it ruins the game of rugby.”

Trialled in Super Rugby and the Rugby Championship last year, a team receiving a red card would be reduced to 14 men for 20 minutes, and that player could be replaced by a reserve. The infringing player would not be able to return to the field.

O’Keeffe agreed with Kirwan’s assertion that the outcome of a red card should change, but noted the on-field decision in the England game was correct as that is how the officials have been told to referee.

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“If we look at this clip here [of the Ewels tackle], it’s less than two minutes into the game and it is a red card,” O’Keeffe explained.

“It’s one of the biggest games of the year in the Six Nations. As referees, we are told how we are going to referee these types of tackles.

“When a player isn’t in a legitimate position to make a tackle, not bent at the hips, they don’t have their arms up when they are upright, they’ve got to take responsibility of their outcomes and actions.

“The outcome of that [Ewels tackle], there was direct contact to the head, with force, there was no mitigation. Therefore, the referee has no other option but to issue a red card.

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“That would have been a red card in the 78th minute, and unfortunately it was the second minute of that game.

“Now everyone is talking about how it was a great game, but it should have been a great game with 15 on 15.

“It puts pressure on us because everyone blames us for ruining the spectacle, ruining the games. It’s just the laws at the moment.”

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18 months before the last World Cup, O’Keeffe was part of the group of referees who were consulted about the changes made and the implementation of the high-tackle framework.

The changes caused widespread controversy as the number of cards issued began to rise dramatically. O’Keeffe believes the changes were rolled out too close to the showpiece event for everyone to become familiar with the new laws.

“We all know that cards impact a game heavily. As referees we don’t want to impact the game but we have got to referee the laws,” O’Keeffe told The Breakdown.

“Before 2019, we had a high-tackle framework come out, six weeks out before a competition, the World Cup.

“Players didn’t have time to adjust. Referees, we didn’t really have time to probably get that correct either. In the first few rounds, I was involved in a few as well.

“There was a lot of controversy. We shouldn’t be having controversy in a World Cup. It should be about the players and the teams.”

O’Keeffe said the new high contact process has a lot more understanding among players and referees alike which has some flexibility and potential mitigation around contact to the head.

Not every incident will result in a red card now, whereas, previously, any contact deemed to touch the head would have been. By the time the World Cup arrives, O’Keeffe believes there will be a better understanding than last time.

“What’s changed now? So, we are 18 games away, we’ve got a high contact process now, which is slightly different, where we go through the points: Is there foul play? Is there head contact? If there is, how much force? is there any mitigation?

“There is a lot more understanding around if, ‘Okay, the force is low, it doesn’t always need to be a red card if there is contact to the head’.

“Whereas, a few years ago, if there is contact to the head, it is pretty much automatically a red card, so there is a shift there. There is better understanding from the referees. I think there is better technique from the players, they understand that better.

“I do believe by the time we get to the next World Cup, we are not going to drop too many changes and we should all be better for it.”

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In other refereeing matters, there are growing concerns over the duration of a fixture with the number of incidents that get reviewed in a game.

Queensland Reds coach Brad Thorn was vocal about changes to the game to speed the process up after the first half against the Fijian Drua dragged on for over an hour.

25 penalties were blown by referee Jordan Way, while three yellow cards were given for three separate incidents inside 30 seconds during one lengthy stoppage before halftime.

The approach in Australia contrasts with the initiative underway in New Zealand as the officials actively try to speed up a game by referring less decisions to the TMO.

O’Keeffe says there has been a measurable impact in the difference between the games across the Tasman.

“I agree, we do need to speed the game up, the great thing we have been doing for Super Rugby is we as referees have been doing that,” he said.

“Up until the rounds so far, there has been about one TMO intervention per game on average in New Zealand where there is about three and a half in Australia, so already there is a difference.

“We are already saving four minutes of rugby, so we are going in the right direction to speed the game up, but still we need to work on the outcomes of these [red card] decisions.”

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Ann 980 days ago

And what about James Ryan who missed the game and will miss the next one. YOu WANT EWELL TO COME BACK ON AFTER 20 minutes

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Geoff 982 days ago

I am English correct decision on red card.
Bad technique head on head not a deliberate shoulder etc.
Referees must take control of decisions. Cut out advising players what they should be doing.
Players must have greater self discipline.
Stop unnecessary TMO and running incident 10 15 times.
STOP players questioning decisions.
TV has a responsibility to stop over analysing decisions.
Eddie Jones stick to coaching.???
Let's see rules that encourage open play and not physical brutal forward domination.
Might then get back to what we all want to see a spectical of exciting competitive rugby 🏉 not a focus on referee's.

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sean 982 days ago

Rugby is a contact sport and as such players go into the sport knowing the risks involved.. we have to decide if we want the game to improve or player safety we can’t have our cake and eat it.. we don’t change formula 1 so drivers are 100% safe because then we wouldn’t have motor sport.. this may be harsh but the game is completely different to how it was even 10 years ago. The sport is the safest it’s been but we risk ruining the game completely in the pursuit of safety.. the game could turn into a touch version. This incident was completely accidental and actually there are more concussion related incidents with players going in too low. Come on WR let’s get some common sense here, there is a fear that WR will be sued like the NFL but it was completely different as the NFL hid thier findings from the players and allowed them to play without knowing the risks

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Michael 983 days ago

The problem is the layering of rule upon rule, so over time we are making the game more complicated and harder for the referee to adjudicate.

When I was playing in the 70's we had the self policing mobile ruck which sucked in the forwards, simplified the game, and backs were backs and forwards were forwards.

Simple: All you heard was the referees whistle for offside, knockon or forward pass.

We didn't hear commands from the referee "use it!" (thank goodness!) or have stoppages to go "upstairs".

The game needs to be simplified to benefit the players, the ref and the spectators!!!

The tackling quality is poor - "around the legs" is still the most effective and safest.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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