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Ex-All Blacks greats clash over team selections for Tonga test

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A pair of former All Blacks greats, as well as an ex-Black Fern, have revealed who they believe should start for New Zealand in their first test this weekend.

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The All Blacks will open their 2021 campaign with a clash against an under-strength Tongan side at Mt Smart Stadium in Auckland on Saturday before going on to play two test against Fiji over the following fortnight.

Much intrigue has surrounded the selection philosophy the All Blacks will adopt heading into the July test series, of which they are expected to dominate.

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With 18 players in Ian Foster’s squad who have 10 test caps or fewer, there is a definite sense of inexperience within the current All Blacks squad, and with the next World Cup only two years away, Sir John Kirwan believes these tests are an opportunity to give those newbies more exposure at international level.

Speaking on The Breakdown earlier this week, Kirwan said powerhouse No. 8 Hoskins Sotutu is a prime example of a promising youngster who should be thrown into the mixer as early as this week to gain more experience.

Having only made his test debut last year, Sotutu has just five test caps to his name, and Kirwan believes the 22-year-old needs around 30 test caps by the time the 2023 World Cup kicks-off.

It’s for that reason, he said, that Sotutu should start at No. 8 this week ahead of the likes of Ardie Savea, who has been tipped by some as a possible long-term option at the back of the scrum, or impressive All Blacks returnee Luke Jacobson.

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“Want to win a World Cup? You need an absolutely world-class, game-changing No. 8, and I think Ardie is an outstanding No. 8, but I think he’s a better 7 at that level,” Kirwan told The Breakdown.

“I reckon you’ve got to play Hoskins from now until the World Cup so he gets there with 30-odd test matches because I think his acceleration off the mark, his ability to take a bad scrum and get over the advantage line, his ability to do that [break the line] out wide is very special.

“Ardie can do that as well, but you imagine him on the right side [of the field] and Ardie on the left side in attack, on the fringes.

“I just think Ardie wants to play 7, your captain [Sam Cane] is out [due to injury] – just play him there.”

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Kirwan’s comments came after ex-Black Ferns midfielder Hannah Porter outlined that she would like to see Savea utilised at No. 8 over the coming weeks.

“I’d personally like to see him at 8 and start Dalton [Papalii] at 7 and put some fresh blood in there and put [Ethan] Blackadder at 6,” Porter, a two-time Women’s World Cup-winner, said.

The makeup of the All Blacks’ loose forward trio wasn’t the only point of discussion on The Breakdown as Kirwan, Porter and former All Blacks utility back Mils Muliaina debated who should start in New Zealand’s midfield.

The All Blacks have been ravaged by injury in that position, with last year’s starters Anton Lienert-Brown (elbow surgery, out for two-three tests) and Jack Goodhue (ruptured ACL, out for season) sidelined with various injuries.

Braydon Ennor has also been ruled out of the Tonga and Fiji tests due to appendicitis, while Ngani Laumape’s imminent departure to France leaves the All Blacks short-stocked in the 12 and 13 jerseys.

In their places, Foster has wing-turned-centre Rieko Ioane, three-test utility back David Havili and the uncapped Quinn Tupaea as his only fully fit players who have been listed as midfielders.

All Blacks defence coach Scott McLeod last week suggested that outside back Jordie Barrett could also be used there as an emergency option, but Porter was adamant Havili and Ioane are now the first-choice midfield options.

“I think Havili and Rieko in the midfield, for me,” Porter said, three weeks after she told The Breakdown she would prefer to see Ioane on the wing prior to Lienert-Brown’s and Ennor’s injuries.

Muliaina, meanwhile, labelled New Zealand’s extensive injury list in the midfield as “a blessing in disguise” for Ioane, who has been vocal in his desire to play in the midfield rather than the wing but has only started one test at centre.

However, Muliaina expressed concerns over Havili’s and Ioane’s defensive sides of the game and how they will fare as midfield partners in test rugby.

“My only concern there is their defensive effort. How are they going to go? Who is going to be the person that dominates?” the 2011 World Cup winner said.

“We love seeing this [Ioane’s attacking ability], we’ll see a lot of this against Tonga, his natural flair, being able to express himself and make busts, but from me, who’s going to be the person that defends and sits someone on their backside that we have always had for the All Blacks?

“This is a good chance now to do it against a Tongan team that will be direct and physical. That there will be what I’m looking for in terms of what we learn, but, the two guys together, I think now’s a good chance to mould that combination together.”

Kirwan agreed with Porter and Muliaina about selecting Ioane as a midfielder as he sees the 24-year-old as a long-term centre because of his “out-and-out pace”.

“I still think he’s getting to grips with the defensive line and just getting really confident,” Kirwan told The Breakdown.

“He’ll put a big hit on when he’s really, really confident defending at 12, where he’s got someone that he’s really confident with, and I think that could be Havili.

“Sometimes he tries a little bit too much on the outsides, so I’d like to see him attacking the inside channel a wee bit more, but he’s just got out-and-out pace.”

Muliaina, who played in the midfield and at fullback for the All Blacks, added that Ioane will become a more mature player and will grow into the centre role with more time in the position over the coming years.

“It takes a bit of maturity in that position, at centre, to understand what messages you need to feed into your second-five or your 10, compared to being out wide when you just waiting for the ball and saying, ‘Hey, there’s space’,” he said.

“Now you’ve got to organise, so he’s actually got to help organise and to give those messages to someone like Havili or [Richie] Mo’unga or a Barrett who’s in there, and that’s where maturity comes into it, and you can only gain that by playing that position.

“He’s had a couple of years now with the Blues, he’s taken on a leadership role, which I think is fantastic. Now is his chance to step up to the big time and grow that, and grow that in an environment that’s possibly been given to him because of the injuries.”

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I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


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The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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