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Ex-England centre takes aim over Farrell captaincy, Itoje form

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Jeremy Guscott believes Steve Borthwick must rethink his decision to make Owen Farrell his England captain – and has also questioned Maro Itoje’s ongoing lack of form at Test level. It was January, prior to new head coach Borthwick naming his squad for the Guinness Six Nations when Guscott told RugbyPass that he would be closely watching what was decided about the captaincy.

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“Who Borthwick chooses as captain will be significant,” he said at the time. “When I think of Geoff Cooke, he picked Will Carling as a young player, a young captain. (Clive) Woodward picked Lawrence Dallaglio and then Martin (Johnson) took over. Jack Rowell went close to home, Carling stopped and Phil de Glanville took over. For change to take place, mentally you need to hear from a different voice.”

Following a campaign in which England were skippered by Farrell in the four matches that he started (Ellis Genge was given the responsibility versus France with Farrell benched), Guscott now believes Borthwick must reassess the captaincy ahead of the World Cup in France from September.

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Speaking to bettingsites.ltd.uk following a third successive Six Nations in which England finished with just two wins from five matches, Guscott said: “The English public has just got to come to terms with the fact that we are not as good as we may think we are. That is proven all around and, quite simply, if you lined up the Irish team, you lined up the French team, who from the England team would get into either of those teams?

“That is why Borthwick shouldn’t be microscopically judged on what happened in the Six Nations. What England wanted was a bigger improvement from the autumn. It was so disappointing in so many ways because it looked like they weren’t in the games. For large parts of the French game, they weren’t in it. Against Ireland, they came together a bit more. But we are lacking those special players, we are lacking stardust.

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“Also, Borthwick’s decision right at the beginning to name Owen Farrell as captain was either going to have worked incredibly well or it was going to go horribly wrong. He is a hangover from Eddie. There is a lot of Eddie in Farrell and that is what he probably saw when he became coach. The warrior that Farrell is, the great leader that he is, it is a hangover and without Farrell, they would move on.

“I figured they would move on quicker without that. It’s a legacy from Eddie. I’m saying we ought to rethink that. Is it going forward and are England progressing with him? How much longer is Farrell going to play? Post-World Cup the future is probably Marcus Smith and maybe George Ford. So many times, Owen gets the ball 30 metres away from the try line and his first instinct, it seems, is always to kick.

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“It’s much better to see that one pass and then make the decision. Marcus’ instinct is to run. George Ford’s instinct is to scan and then make a decision to kick or run. Owen’s first decision seems to be to kick. His influence over the team is enormous and if he is on a high, it works. But at the moment, he just looks a little bit slower than he used to be, more reserved than he used to be, and he certainly kicks more than he used to.

“Borthwick has got enough time between this last game and the first warm-up game (in August) and the England camp to decide if Farrell is the right choice. Personally, I can’t say no he is not because I’m not in the camp so I don’t know the upside of Owen Farrell. But the playing side at the moment isn’t influential enough for him to be in the team and to be captain.”

Guscott also reflected on the forgettable campaigns that Manu Tuilagi and Itoje had with England. “We put labels on players and people. The only label we should be worried about is how well this person is playing. If he is playing well, he picks himself. If he isn’t, which Manu hasn’t been, he is left out. Ollie Lawrence came in and proved his place. We say we can’t wait for Manu to get back to playing as well as he can; we can’t wait for Farrell to play his best rugby.

“And where has Maro Itoje been? I was sitting next to a good friend watching the game at the Aviva Stadium. When Maro made his first ball carry, I didn’t know he was in the game. Maro used to get three turnovers a match and make 20 tackles. He was the man of the match most of the time. That has disappeared. It’s just a reflection of where England have been for the last three Six Nations championships.”

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Guscott reckoned that the English rugby pathway wasn’t producing sufficient talent to improve results. “Everyone at the RFU, and I don’t know these people, have got to up their game. Maybe they are already and there is stuff in place that we don’t know about. But right here, right now, who is the replacement for Kyle Sinckler? A 35-year-old guy [Dan Cole].

“Who is the replacement for Jamie George? Who is a replacement for Itoje? Who is a replacement for Manu Tuilagi? What is the quality of their replacements? What is the quality of those coming through? You would say it is substandard. It reflects Premiership rugby and their players. It’s a reflection of the whole development pathway. It is not producing world-class players now.”

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lot 640 days ago

what a load of trash is this piece. did he even play rugby? yeah right. was just a local english star in a team that didn't break as many records as EJ's did. correct? We saw the Farrell replacement in the French game, historical loss, Genge. We also saw the replacement Smith, again big loss. the yo yo of the 10 was RFU interference and media like you pressure. EJ hangover? they made the Final and if EJ was still the coach, England would still be more competitive and your Fans would expect England to win. Suddenly, with BW, Fans of england are giving him a pass to lose with the same players EJ used... what do you call that?? Bull Crap

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Steve 641 days ago

Guscott saying a lot without actually saying anything. If not Farrell then who? At least offer an opinion? As for what he said about Manu, Ollie Lawrence was given game time and Manu wasn't selected. He only came back in when Lawrence was injured so again making a pointless point maybe?

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JW 2 hours ago
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I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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