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Ex-England lock Ben Kay joins ruckus over fans not allowed attend UK games

Former England international Ben Kay (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

England World Cup winner Ben Kay is the latest figure in the rugby world to send a message to UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Twitter regarding the recent decision to delay the return of fans to sports stadiums. 

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The former lock and current pundit directed a message to Johnson, the Government Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, as well as the Minister for Sport, Tourism and Heritage, Nigel Huddleston.

Kay expressed his disappointment in the decision to delay the initial plan for the reintroduction of fans into stadiums from October to potentially 2021. 

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He wrote: “Disappointing that there seems to have been so little consultation with government and sport regarding the decision around pausing the return to crowds trials. A lot of time and money has been spent on planning to ensure safe, social distancing measures.”

Kay then proceeded to outline the measures that could be taken to ensure stadiums are Covid-friendly: “If we limited to 1/3 capacity and had a maximum attendance of say 8,000 at any event, could there not be a council-appointed Covid warden who sits in the crowd safety and security box at stadia and monitors and assesses social distancing?

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“Everyone in the ground has to keep two metres and wear a face mask. Alcohol gel stations and the temperature is taken on the way in. Club stewards could immediately eject anyone not abiding and Covid marshal could have the power to revoke the club’s ‘licence for crowds’.”

Since the announcement was made by the government this week, figures from across the game have warned of the potentially catastrophic consequences should stadiums remain empty for a further six months. 

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Gloucester CEO Lance Bradley released a statement on Thursday detailing the ramifications of this decision. This comes less than two weeks after the club successfully welcomed 1,000 fans to Kingsholm for their match against Harlequins. 

He said: “We heavily rely on the income from match days and to go without it for an additional six months will be devastating. We also recognise how important it is for you to be able to watch your team, and how difficult it would be to go for another six months unable to do so.” 

Kay finished his message by saying that fans in stadiums would be prudent, knowing that clubs are so dependent on them for their survival. He said: “Think the overwhelming majority of crowds would self-police with the knowledge that lack of adherence would result in the stadium shutting down and potentially club going out of business. 

“I know there is an issue of crowd travel and outside stadium control but with only 1/3 capacity of a usual event and maximum of 8,000 surely this is manageable and as safe as keeping indoor social gathering venues open.”

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Kay’s BT Sport colleague Ugo Monye also addressed Prime Minister Johnson on Twitter this week.

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JW 2 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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