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Ex-Lions forward suggests it's 'time to look at a British League'

Leicester's Dan Cole clings on to Ospreys' Jac Morgan (Photo by Clive Mason/Getty Images)

Former England lock Martin Bayfield, a 1993 tourist with the British and Irish Lions, has called on the rugby authorities to shake up the club game by organising a British League. The sport in the UK has been blighted by financial crisis this season. The Gallagher Premiership in England saw two of its participants collapse while there is anger in Wales with no regional budgets signed off for next season by the WRU.

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That latter situation has resulted in a messy build-up to next week’s round three Guinness Six Nations match, as players in Wales will hold strike talks. In the meantime, Bayfield, who now works as a rugby presenter for BT Sport, believes it is time for the Premiership to open up and consider becoming a British League if the overall club product is to prosper.

“Not sure if it’s a 6’10” thing but I was having a conversation along the same lines as Derwyn Jones,” wrote Bayfield on his Twitter account. “Surely now is the time to look at a British League. The unions can no longer exist in splendid isolation. Time for a proper deep dive into the possibility.”

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Jones, the ex-Wales lock who now runs a players’ agency, had earlier written along the same lines as Bayfield and the British Leagie idea: “With two English teams going under this season and all of the issues surfacing in Welsh Rugby over the past 24 hours surely now’s the time for CVC to demand we re-visit the idea of a British League.

“Having been involved in far too many Welsh rugby re-sets over the past 20 years, I can’t ever remember the players being treated with such a lack of compassion and respect. Without them, there is no game and all who are discussing their futures would do well to remember that.”

Numerous rugby fans made their feelings knowns in the replies to these tweets. Here is a selection of what was said: “Why would the Irish, Scottish and Welsh unions take on the bin fire that is PRL? The URC is thriving (despite the internal Welsh issues) while PRL are falling apart. After PRLs shenanigans in destroying the HEC, I can’t see the unions wanting to do them any favours at all.”

“Regional rugby is the only way to keep the game sustainable and profitable. Uncomfortable but.”

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“I disagree. Less is more is a nice idea but impractical. Australia has four teams, previously three – they are twice RWC winners. The game is gone. Pro rugby isn’t working. Why? Eyeballs. Think it’s time to revert to the original model pre-1995.”

“I fear it will make no difference though it would be nice if it was the answer. Pro rugby just depends on basic finances: Is the product good enough to make enough money to sustain the current costs? If not then makes no difference how the leagues are organised.”

“Personally a British and Ireland NFL-style league system I think would be brilliant. Not a true closed shop so always jeopardy but with increased teams, increased local derbies and rivalries etc… bring in a university structure that has a draft system. Just need imagination.”

“I have thought this for some time. Two top-tier divisions across Eng/Ire/Scot/Wales. Strengthen club rugby, keep players local and not heading abroad, keep crowds healthy and hopefully clubs more financially secure.”

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“Absolutely it is, but the original PRO12 (or whichever name it was) took on Italian rugby and has been a major factor in their development, they can’t be forgotten – deal done for France’s Top 14 to become 16?! Mustn’t forget those on the journey!”

“The regions work in Ireland as they are franchised by the union. Same in Scotland. Wales is an unworkable hybrid. Either WRU takes it all over or goes back to their old league system. Their current plan helps no one. British league isn’t needed, just sort their house out.”

“Experiment with kick-off times first. 3pm is designed to be convenient for a small number of travelling away fans. Will attendance increase with earlier or later kick-off? Personally I’d love a 10am kick-off. Probably not good for beer sales though.”

“I agree with the idea, when rugby went professional I believe there was a rush to grab some of the pie without looking at the big picture. The club game seems fragmented and unsustainable for some.”

“Not saying I agree but it’s inevitable in some shape, pro game in infancy and developed on the hoof. Time to reflect. Those more successful clubs/regions might say it’s okay as it is but if more clubs struggle/disappear who will you actually play? It’s safeguarding sustainability.”

“Anglo-Welsh is the best idea. Irish and Scottish teams are union owned I believe which would make salary capping them difficult.”

“I’m only 6’3″ but I have been saying this for years. At least with English and Welsh clubs. two leagues of 10 with both properly funded and relegation and promotion of top + playoff between second and ninth. Five Welsh teams, including one from north, 12 from England, three from Scotland. Sorted.”

“I can never understand why this didn’t happen with Wales and England. The cross-border games were huge crowd pullers pre-regions. The best example if this being done before is Welsh football. If Cardiff, Swansea, Newport had played in the Welsh leagues they would have failed.”

“My concern would be one of two scenarios: No Welsh clubs/regions would be in the top tier. If they started in the top tier, would they survive? One Welsh/club region is in the top tier, battling for honours and the WRU finds a way to get all the top Welsh talent into that side.”

“The harsh truth is that rugby union lives beyond its means. I’d rather see a game with most players earning good money in a financially secure club structure. But to do that the very top players’ salaries are going to have to be reduced – pretty dramatically.”

“We need a global salary cap!”

“I’d be up for an Anglo-Welsh league with a beefed-up second division. As a Bath fan I’d love to go to Cardiff vs Bath… plenty of heritage. What you don’t want is Super Rugby where defence is optional and none of the fixtures have any history or gravitas.”

“Why would the URC teams want this, only to dilute the quality? No thanks. Edinburgh are currently ninth in URC but beat Sarries here and should have beaten them at the StoneX. Shows how poor the English Premiership is.”

“Personally, I think an NFL-style British and Irish League would be great. Increased number of teams. More local derbies, increased TV coverage because of more games. A university system that leads to a draft system. Coverage and exposure are key and having 12 top clubs not good.”

“I can see more English clubs going under as benefactors back away. Their clubs suffer from a lack of contact with other nations while Wales desperately needs a competition that brings the crowds back. Makes sense to get this up and running. It’s a turning point for the sport.”

“The clear example is in front of us! The English football league, scrap all ring-fenced competitions and install a UK-wide league. Harmonised season with promotion and relegation from top to bottom. Get international rugby back where it belongs as an occasion, not a career essential.”

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isaac 673 days ago

England trying to take advantage and ride on the Scottish and Irish wave??? Wales will be back but the Primiership will die a slow death....Super rugby is coming up and will thrive from 2026 onwards....alot of young players will be approaching 30 and with alot of experience under their belt will become the competition. URC maybe the best tournament post 2025 if the current teams and structure remain...

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finn 673 days ago

England is not the main character of rugby. It really seems like the people proposing this don't realise that the welsh, scottish, and irish (and italian and south african) clubs and unions have a bit of agency and aren't just pawns to be moved around for england's benefit.

In the long-run, I think most nations will find most of their top players playing in Japan and France. When that happens I think that what will make most sense is for England to whittle down our number of clubs, and then have the top 4 join the URC. I suspect the other unions involved would come round to liking this idea, but we shouldn't do it yet. The fact that england is sustaining 11 elite level rugby teams able to compete with the URC teams is impressive, and we need to cling on to that for as long as possible.

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Briain 673 days ago

This is a silly idea that English rugby floats when they are in trouble. Irish and Scottish are in fine health because of years of structural investments from the unions particularly in the academy structures. English rugby with it's private clubs and a toothless union has been running the game into the ground for 2 decades. Privates clubs don't invest in the game they only measure success by their first teams. The RFU doesn't have the power or seemingly the inclination to try and force the clubs to maintain academy structures or develop future England players. A British league (Irish people aren't British BTW) doesn't solve these structural problems in any shape or form and the simple fact is out of a 100 players maybe one will become a pro but those other 99 could be supporters who will fiance the game for the pros. England needs to sort it's house out first before trying to drag the other unions down with silly leagues just to save their top flight rugby

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Bryan 673 days ago

Being Scottish and a bit cynical it seems the reorganisation comes to the surface when English teams get into financial difficulties. I was never totally for professionalism and it decimated Scottish Border rugby which historically was the hotbed, as only the two cities could financially sustain the cost, subsidised by the SRU but both teams seem to normally have crowds under 10,000. I have no idea about salary capping but find it strange that who must be the 2 highest earners in England play for the same club.

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GrahamVF 36 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 7 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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