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Ex-Lions No8 leads mixed reaction on social media to Bastareaud's positional change

Mathieu Bastareaud has it all to do at Lyon to convince he can realistically play at No8 (Photo by Getty Images)

There has been a mixed reaction on social media to the revelation that Mathieu Bastareaud will attempt to play at No8 next season for his new club Lyon. 

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The former Toulon and France centre is set to join the Top 14 club as a medical joker during the World Cup before his loan move to Rugby United New York in 2020. 

However, the change of scenery is the least of his worries as he attempts a daring transition into a new position. 

This is an idea that has been flirted with in the past. Former France international Thomas Castaignède suggested Bastareaud make the change earlier this year in order to prolong his international career, saying that the 30-year-old is now too old to play in the centre. 

Bastareaud has since retired from international rugby after failing to make the World Cup training squad but has obviously taken the advice on board. 

A move like this is unprecedented in modern rugby, particularly for a player so late in their career and playing at the highest level. Younger players in the past have made similar positional switches, but not after they have earned 54 caps for their country. 

Former British and Irish Lions No8 Jamie Heaslip has said on Twitter that Bastareaud moving position is a “dangerous thought”, while there has also been a positive reaction on Instagram as well. 

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One fan said that this transition “should have been done 10 years ago”. Standing at 20 stone, many have felt that the Frenchman is better suited to the pack. 

However, a move like this will inevitably have its critics. One fan said on Instagram that “I doubt he’ll have the fitness and mobility to be effective at the breakdown and set-piece”.

That is understandable as there is more to playing in the back row than simply being big. But Bastareaud’s work at the breakdown has always been underestimated, as his solid physique makes him hard to shift when he is over the ball. 

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There will be greater demand for him to carry and tackle in the forwards, and it is unseen whether he will have the stamina to do so. 

This is one thing that the rugby world will curiously wait to see unfold, as it will be fascinating to see if a player could make this kind of transition.  

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GrahamVF 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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