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‘Hard truth’: Ex-Wallabies clash over performance after loss to Springboks

Andrew Kellaway of the Wallabies reacts after the loss during The Rugby Championship match between Australia Wallabies and South Africa Springboks at Optus Stadium on August 17, 2024 in Perth, Australia. (Photo by James Worsfold/Getty Images)

Former Wallabies Stephen Hoiles and Nick Phipps have praised the Wallabies for their first-half performance against the Springboks in Perth, but not everyone agreed on Stan Sports’ Between Two Posts panel.

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Following Australia’s disastrous 33-7 loss to South Africa at Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium, the men in gold looked to bounce back against the same foe one week later. But as the forecast predicted, the conditions weren’t going to make it easy for either team in Perth.

Rain began to pour down from the heavens several hours before kick-off at Optus Stadium. While it calmed down for a brief period, the weather was once again a nuisance as the teams walked out for the national anthems on Saturday evening.

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With flyhalf Noah Lolesio leading the way in attack, the Wallabies didn’t seem too bothered by the wet as they took it to the world champions. It was a two-point game going into the break, but the hosts would’ve been in the lead if Lolesio had converted a late penalty.

“I thought with those conditions it was certainly not going to favour us, but conditions sometimes have the ability to level teams. I thought we actually handled the conditions really well in that first half,” Stephen Hoiles said on Stan Sport.

“South Africa will probably look at (the game) and say they didn’t. I thought we managed, minimal errors early – that was probably the big thing. We probably played in the right ends of the field.

“It ran away from us but at half-time, we walked in (and) not just because of the scoreline, just because the weight had gone and we looked mature for a young, new side under Joe Schmidt. I thought we looked relatively mature for the first 40.

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“You never had confidence that we’re going to be able to run away with it, you always felt the team that would spend more time in the opposition A-zone in the second half was going to win it and that’s where we struggled.

“We got very little time down there in the second half and when we did, we made crucial errors. So, the scoreline didn’t shock me, the scoreline probably flattered South Africa a little but it also just highlights their depth and experience to be able to get points late in the game without actually firing too many shots.”

Match Summary

4
Penalty Goals
2
0
Tries
4
0
Conversions
2
0
Drop Goals
0
89
Carries
96
3
Line Breaks
6
12
Turnovers Lost
15
4
Turnovers Won
3

Lolesio, 24, opened the scoring a couple of minutes into the Test with a simple penalty goal from close range. That accurate shot at goal was met with a cheer from the Western Australian crowd, with many wearing ponchos as they battled the conditions themselves.

But South Africa rallied during the opening 40 minutes with fullback Aphelele Fassi scoring the only try of the half. They took an 11-9 lead into the break with Lolesio missing a tough but kickable shot at goal with time up on the clock.

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The Springboks showed their class during the second term as they scored three tries, which included a double to replacement hooker Malcolm Marx. Australia couldn’t find their way to the try line themselves – only scoring one try in two Tests against the Boks.

“What we all wanted to see was a response. We’re a building team, everyone’s improving – Schmidt’s had them for seven or eight weeks now,” Nick Phipps added.

“We wanted to see a response from last week. I thought that first-half we matched them physically, we held our own in the scrum and in the lineouts we were actually pretty good.

“We wanted to see a response physically, they stood up there. They handled the pressure well. We were down in our own half a lot, and we’re trying to exit a lot as well which under those conditions… was also hard, but we stayed in the fight.

“We probably should’ve gone into the half-time one-point up.”

But not everyone agreed that it was a Wallabies performance, at least in the first-half, that warranted overwhelming admiration and praise. Morgan Turinui played the role of devil’s advocate by briefly analysing the “poor performance.”

“We gave away three penalties in the first half. We played the right game plan but the hard truth is we’re not good enough to play that game plan. (South Africa) butchered three tries,” Turinui explained.

“We played the right way as well as we could. We should’ve paid the price for inaccurate kicking again – they dropped some balls in the wet… it’s not like they played well.”

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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