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Ex-Wallaby compares 2024 Reds to Quade’s 2011 Super Rugby champions

Fraser McReight of the Reds scores a try during the round three Super Rugby Pacific match between Queensland Reds and Chiefs at Suncorp Stadium, on March 09, 2024, in Brisbane, Australia. (Photo by Albert Perez/Getty Images)

Following the Reds’ promising start to the season, former Wallaby Stephen Hoiles has compared the current squad to the history-making Super Rugby champions of 2011.

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Halves Will Genia and Quade Cooper led the way for the Queensland Reds as they helped deliver the state’s first-ever Super Rugby title with a win over Dan Carter’s Crusaders 13 years ago.

The Reds have managed to win just one Super Rugby AU title since, but even the quality of that championship side might not compare to the 2024 crop of Reds talent.

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Following their win over Australian rivals the Melbourne Rebels, the Reds are second on the Super Rugby Pacific standings by a slight margin behind the ladder-leading Hurricanes.

Queensland are 3-1 after the first four rounds of the campaign, with their sole defeat to date coming in a golden point thriller against the undefeated Canes in Super Round.

With new coach Les Kiss at the helm, a young Queensland side which includes Fraser McReight and Josh Flook are bringing career-best form to the Super Rugby Pacific table.

“You’re seeing the best of what Brad Thorn did with the group but you’re also seeing why they needed to go in a different direction because they had so much more ability in them,” Stephen Hoiles said on Stan Sports’ Between Two Posts.

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“They look like, I’m going out early here, but they look similar to the skillset that the 2011 Reds had. You know, the Quades and the Will Genia’s – they like to play a free-spirited style.

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“You’ve almost got to unleash them a little bit.

“I feel how Brad Thorn coached it was about being tough, physical and just repetitive and doing the same thing. They’ve got the best in work ethic out of Brad Thorn; now they’re adding that element of risk but it’s risk with detail.

“They’re coaching according to their playing group which is always the most important thing to do.”

Going into round four, there was plenty of interest surrounding the Reds’ matchup with the Rebels. It was a top-three clash that pitted some of the nation’s best against one another.

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Lock Seru Uru scored a first-half double as the Reds ran up a commanding 33-7 half-time lead, and a strong end to the second term saw them hold on for a big win.

With 19-year-old Harry McLaughlin-Phillips in the No. 10 jersey, the Reds made a statement with the 26-53 demolition of their Aussie foe down south.

The Reds are set to travel to Perth later this week ahead of a meeting with the winless Western Force at HBF Park on Saturday afternoon (local time).

“They’ve got the Force this week, they’re over in Perth this week,” Hoiles added. “If they get a win over there, which… you’d assume with the way things are going they should beat (the Force), they’ll come back to 30, 35,000 (supporters) at Suncorp.”

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SK 49 minutes ago
What is the future of rugby in 2025?

Set pieces are important and the way teams use them is a great indication of how they play the game. No team is showcasing their revolution more than the Springboks. This year they have mauled less and primarily in the attacking third. Otherwise they have tended to set like they are going to maul and then play around the corner or shove the ball out the back. They arent also hitting the crash ball carrier constantly but instead they are choosing to use their width or a big carrying forward in wider areas. While their maul is varied the scrum is still a blunt instrument winning penalties before the backs have a go. Some teams have chosen to blunt their set piece game for more control. The All Blacks are kicking more penalties and are using their powerful scrum as an attacking tool choosing that set piece as an attacking weapon. Their willingness to maul more and in different positions is also becoming more prominent. The French continue to play conservative rugby off the set piece using their big bruisers frequently. The set piece is used differently by different teams. Different teams play different ways and can be successful regardless. They can win games with little territory and possession or smash teams with plenty of both. The game of rugby is for all types and sizes and thats true in the modern era. I hope that administrators keep it that way and dont go further towards a Rugby League style situation. Some administrators are of the opinion that rugby is too slow and needs to be sped up. Why not rather empower teams to choose how they want to play and create a framework that favours neither size nor agility. That favours neither slow tempo play or rock n roll rugby. Create a game that favour both and challenge teams to execute their plans. If World Rugby can create a game like that then it will be the ultimate winner.

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JW 6 hours ago
'Let's not sugarcoat it': Former All Black's urgent call to protect eligibility rules

Yep, no one knows what will happen. Thing is I think (this is me arguing a point here not a random debate with this one) they're better off trialing it now in a controlled environment than waiting to open it up in a knee jerk style reaction to a crumbling organtization and team. They can always stop it again.


The principle idea is that why would players leave just because the door is ajar?


BBBR decides to go but is not good enough to retain the jersey after doing it. NZ no longer need to do what I suggest by paying him to get back upto speed. That is solely a concept of a body that needs to do what I call pick and stick wth players. NZR can't hold onto everyone so they have to choose their BBBRs and if that player comes back from a sabbatical under par it's a priority to get him upto speed as fast as possible because half of his competition has been let go overseas because they can't hold onto them all. Changing eligibility removes that dilemma, if a BBBR isn't playing well you can be assured that someone else is (well the idea is that you can be more assured than if you only selected from domestic players).


So if someone decides they want to go overseas, they better do it with an org than is going to help improve them, otherwise theyre still basically as ineligible as if they would have been scorning a NZ Super side that would have given them the best chance to be an All Black.

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