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Ex-Wallaby tips Crusaders to move into playoff spot for ‘less than 24 hours’

Codie Taylor of the Crusaders leads his team onto the field during the round 14 Super Rugby Pacific match between Crusaders and Blues at Apollo Projects Stadium, on May 25, 2024, in Christchurch, New Zealand. (Photo by Joe Allison/Getty Images)

Wallabies legend Tim Horan believes the Crusaders will move into the top eight for “less than 24 hours” during a blockbuster final regular season round in Super Rugby Pacific.

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The defending champions have only won three matches from 13 starts this season and currently sit in 10th place, but with eight teams moving on to the playoffs, they’re still a chance to progress.

On the back of a statement two-point win over the table-topping Blues last time out, the decorated franchise will surge into the top eight with a win over Moana Pasifika at Christchurch’s Apollo Projects Stadium on Friday night.

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But, whether or not they stay there will depend on other results. The Fijian Drua can lock up a spot with a win in Lautoka on Saturday, and the Western Force may have it all to play against the Brumbies in the final match of the round.

Two-time Rugby World Cup-winning Wallaby Tim Horan, who tipped the Crusaders to come “sixth or seventh” on Stan Sport before the season, doesn’t see the world-renowned rugby side playing finals footy this season.

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“A lot of people are criticising having a top eight and should it go to a top six? What a top eight does, it has conversations right to the end of round 15 which we’re doing now,” Horan said on Stan Sport’s Rugby Heaven.

“I think the Crusaders will win on Friday and then they’ll be in the top eight for about less than 24 hours, until of course the Fijian Drua play the Rebels at lunchtime on Saturday.

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“Fergus Burke was out for a long time and when he came back, he was brilliant… they’re going to lose him to Saracens at the end of the season.

“I see the Crusaders getting in but only for about less than 24 hours.”

With coach Rob Penney leading the way, the Crusaders have welcomed back some key players this month and the team has played some improved rugby on the back of that. All Black Codie Taylor has been superb, and Fergus Burke has also impressed.

In their two most recent outings, the Crusaders went toe-to-toe with the high-flying Brumbies in Canberra which is no easy feat and backed that up with a comeback win over the Blues.

They’ve almost started to look like the Crusaders of old.

But it may very well be too late.

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Their hopeful charge towards the top eight might pull up just short, with another former Wallaby in Cameron Shepherd doubling down on the belief the Crusaders’ season will go no further than round 15.

“They’re still written off, they won’t make it,” Shepherd insisted.

“You’re forgetting that if the Crusaders maybe don’t win or even if they do but Fiji loses, there is still a possibility for the Western Force to sneak into that top eight.

“What’s really, really cool about it is the Crusaders are the first game on the weekend and then the Force are going to be the last one.

“(It’s) going to keep everyone on the edge of their seats for the whole weekend.”

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JW 24 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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