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Exeter react to loss of two Scotland players this week and give update on Henry Slade's England injury

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Rob Baxter has wished his Scotland players Stuart Hogg and Sam Skinner well for their rearranged Guinness Six Nations match with France, a game which resulted in the kick-off time of the Exeter game at Gloucester being brought forward this Friday. He has also provided an update on the Henry Slade injury and the return of the Chiefs’ other internationals to the club this week. 

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With their round three match in Paris postponed on February 28, Scotland had been in lengthy discussions with Premiership Rugby and the Six Nations to ensure their contingent of English-based players were all released for this Friday’s rearranged Test fixture at Stade de France.

An agreement was slow in forthcoming and when it arrived it came with the kicker that the Scots could only pick five of their Premiership players due to the level of player release compensation that was paid to the league in England. 

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That left Scotland boss Gregor Townsend to carefully consider his options and in the end, he decided to choose Exeter pair Hogg and Skinner, Gloucester duo Chris Harris and Alex Craig and Harlequins’ Scott Steele. 

The decision will leave Hogg and Skinner only arriving back at Exeter for next weekend’s Champions Cup round of 16 game versus Lyon as opposed to joining everyone else in reporting back at Sandy Park earlier this week following last weekend’s Six Nations round five matches. 

Baxter won’t complain, though, and has wished the Scots well when they go into battle not long after full-time has blown in the Exeter match at Kingsholm. “I don’t get involved in these things,” said the Chiefs coach when asked about the politics that eventually led to a partial player release agreement between PRL, the SRU and the Six Nations.

“These are things that occur between PRL and the CEOs and the owners and the national bodies. As far as I know, there has been an agreement made over the level of compensation for the clubs who lose players. Once that was agreed it was pretty straightforward and the guys [Hogg and Skinner] could stay. 

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“Disappointed for Jonny Gray that he has come up with a bit of a sore shoulder. There doesn’t seem to be anything too serious but they didn’t want to risk him so he is on his way back here. We won’t involve him this weekend. He’ll hopefully have a good block of recovery time to get ready for the Lyon game.

“It is always frustrating to be without good players, of course it is, but we have dealt with it so far and for Stuart Hogg in particular it is massively important he is involved,” reasoned Exeter boss Baxter. “He is the Scotland captain, which is huge for him. Sam Skinner has not had massive involvement with Scotland so it is a good opportunity for him to play some more international rugby. 

“I can’t say on one hand we really want ambitious players here, we want players who can play at their absolute best and achieve their dreams, and then turn around and say we don’t like it when they play international rugby. You have to take it for what it is, it’s a great opportunity for them.

“It’s a big opportunity for Scotland to help Wales win the Six Nations. It’s going to be a big game, one that is very interesting because France have still got a fair bit to do to win this Six Nations.”

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One player back at Exeter is England midfielder Slade who suffered a training ground calf muscle injury that left him unavailable for his country’s round five defeat away to Ireland. “He seems okay,” enthused Baxter. “The scans showed up not too much so from what we are seeing, just a bit of TLC this week and he should be fine for the Lyon game.”

As regards England duo Luke Cowan-Dickie and Jonny Hill and Wales prop Tomas Francis, the Exeter coach added: “Luke has come back a bit bumped and bruised. We will have a good assessment of where he is before we make any calls on what he is going to do, but he is in and around the club and is looking sparky, is looking to get on with things as all the England lads are. 

“Jonny Hill the same. We look in a good place with our returning internationals. Tom Francis was in training Monday, getting on with things. It’s great to have them around now and we know we have got them around until the end of the season.”

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GrahamVF 21 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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