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Fissler Extra: Danny Care's future in focus as Ben Youngs takes new job

Danny Care of Barbarians during the Killik Cup match between Barbarians and Fiji at Twickenham Stadium on June 22, 2024 in London, England. (Photo by Steve Bardens/Getty Images for Barbarians)

Veteran Harlequins scrum-half Danny Care is getting ready for his 20th season in professional rugby, but don’t rule him out of continuing to play until 2026 as he continues to defy Old Father Time and the ageing process.

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The whispers are that Care, who is releasing his autobiography later this year, will be playing past his 38th birthday next January and has an option for the 2025/26 campaign written into the contract he signed last season.

It is understood that Care, who is keen to play for as long as possible, had a clause inserted when Bayonne earlier this year made a last-ditch attempt to derail Quins’ bid to keep the holder of their club appearance record.

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England, and British and Irish Lions second row Jonny Hill has this week returned to pre-season training with Sale Sharks but won’t be fit for the start of the Gallagher Premiership season against Harlequins later this month.

Hill, 30, the nephew of former rugby league international Paul Loughlin, has been out of action since January when he ruptured his patella tendon in an Investec Champions Cup tie with La Rochelle, which caused his move to Lyon to fall through.

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He could return in either the trip to Saracens in the second round of games or the third-round visit to Salford by Gloucester. Another knee injury victim, No.8 Dan du Preez, is also scheduled to return at the same time.

Vannes will make their historic bow in the Top 14 this weekend when they entertain Top 14 champions, and title favourites Toulouse at the 11,865-capacity Stade de la Rabine on Saturday evening.

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Vannes’ promotion has captured the imagination of the Breton public. 50,000 people crashed the website when season tickets went on sale, and every game is guaranteed to sell out even though they are favourites for relegation.

When the Pro D2 champions held their last public training session last Saturday, hundreds of fans flooded their doors to watch the two-and-a-half-hour session before the finalised preparations away from prying eyes.

England’s most capped men’s player and successful podcaster, Ben Youngs, will combine playing this season with working for his former school, Gresham’s, after being appointed as their new Head of Performance Sport.

Former Lions scrumhalf Youngs, who will be 35 tomorrow, admitted earlier this summer that he had heart surgery this year after collapsing during an open training session with Premiership side Leicester Tigers.

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Gresham’s, a school in Holt on the North Norfolk coast, has asked Youngs “to set new standards in performance sport” by “nurturing high-performance athletes across a range of disciplines.”

Brive scrum-half Leo Carbonneau is in the middle of a tug-of-war between arch-rivals in the French capital Racing 92 and Stade Francais, who are keen to sign him up for the 2025/26 campaign.

The pair have both got a scrumhalf on their shopping list, and our friends at Midi Olympique say France U20 international Carbonneau, 19, who is under contract until 2026, is the man that they both want to sign.

They are both prepared to pay a fee to release Pau-born Carbonneau, whose father Philippe won back-to-back Grand Slams with France in 1997 and 1998, from the final year of his contract.

Doncaster Knights have had a busy summer in the transfer market as Joe Ford prepares to launch a bid for Championship success this season, and there appears to be no letting up in their recruitment.

The word is that Ford is understood to be keen on making a cross-code raid for Samoa Rugby League international and Hull FC centre Carlos Tuimavave, who was once voted one of the best young players in the world.

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Auckland-born Tuimavave, 32, has played in the NRL for the New Zealand Warriors and the Newcastle Knights before moving to Hull in 2016, winning the Challenge Cup in his first two seasons at the club.

Montpellier new-boys Stuart Hogg and Billy Vunipola have already started to settle into life in the Top 14, according to their teammate Paul Willemse, who was speaking to the media in France earlier this week.

The South African-born French international lock says that the pair are already both using French to communicate with their teammates and believes that they will both strengthen last season’s Top 14 strugglers.

“They integrated super easily. They are already saying words in French. They are strong characters. They are not shy. They take matters into their own hands and do not hide,” he said.

France and Toulouse flanker Anthony Jelonch is back in training and hopes to return to action in three weeks after recovering from his latest injury blow.

Jelonch, 28, has suffered two serious knee injuries in the past 18 months but has now battled back from both and should be available for France again this autumn, provided he has no setbacks.

“I resumed training two weeks ago, and I cannot wait to get back out on the pitch within three weeks, I hope,” he told the French media earlier this week.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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