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Five potential big name casualties in a 36-man Lions squad

(Photo by Glyn Kirk/AFP via Getty Images)

Warren Gatland opted for a 41-man British and Irish Lions squad to travel to New Zealand in 2017, but is going for a slimline 36-man squad to take on South Africa later this year.

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This is not unfamiliar territory though, as the Kiwi took a 37-man squad to Australia in 2013 with a split of 21 forwards and 16 backs.

A squad of 36 means five players will miss out who were originally in a 41-man draft squad. Given the nature of the opposition and Gatland’s proclivity to select forward-heavy squads in the past with Wales, he may go for 21 forwards and 15 backs. This would suggest two forwards miss out from the 41, and three backs.

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Sam Simmonds
In a larger squad, Exeter Chiefs’ Sam Simmonds could have been a useful weapon, but his exile from England will obviously not help.

With so many loose forwards playing at the top of their game during the Guinness Six Nations, Gatland will likely opt for current internationals.

With the likes of locks Tadhg Beirne, Iain Henderson and Maro Itoje also able to operate at No6, the luxury back row options are likely to be the ones to miss out in Gatland’s refined squad.

Billy Vunipola
Sacrifices will have to be made in the back row, and form may be the deciding factor with Billy Vunipola’s omission after a sluggish Six Nations. Though it would make sense to drop an openside, it would be cruel for one of Justin Tipuric, Tom Curry or player of the Six Nations Hamish Watson to miss out. With Taulupe Faletau the nailed on starter at No8, and CJ Stander able to cover No8 and flanker (and even Tom Curry to do the same), Vunipola is the favourite to miss out.

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Dan Biggar and Finn Russell
Even though Owen Farrell can shift to inside centre, it would be strange if Gatland took more than three fly-halves to South Africa. In fact, in 2013 he only took two, which may be his course of action this year as well, with Stuart Hogg serving as a backup No10.

The England captain is more or less assured of a place, meaning Johnny Sexton, Dan Biggar and Finn Russell will battle for two more places. The denouement of Sexton’s Six Nations may have saved him, and even though he will be 36 come the Test series, a strong showing in the Heineken Champions Cup will make a convincing case to go.

Russell provides an attacking threat that the other three do not, which helps him, but that is not necessarily Gatland’s style. Neither he nor Biggar featured in the Tests four years ago against the All Blacks and they could miss out completely this time around.

Duhan van der Merwe
Versatility is key in a small squad, meaning players like Liam Williams, who is able to cover fullback and the wing, and George North, who has proven he can slot in at outside centre and the wing, are more valuable.

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Meanwhile, wingers Jonny May, Anthony Watson and Josh Adams have been favourites to be picked for a number of years now, as is the guaranteed selection Hogg at fullback.

That leaves a contest between Scotland’s Duhan van der Merwe to face the country of his birth and Wales’ Louis Rees-Zammit. The former provides power and the latter pace to crudely compare the two, and though van der Merwe may have finished the Six Nations as top try scorer, the Welshman seems to have the X-factor at the moment and may just shade him.

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JW 2 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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