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Lawrence Dallaglio picks the rugby moment of his life, and it's not England's 2003 World Cup win

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Lawrence Dallaglio has claimed that 1997 success with the Lions in South Africa was the best moment of his stellar career rather than winning the 2003 World Cup with England in Australia. The now 47-year-old enjoyed a lengthy Test innings that featured 85 caps with England.

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However, Dallaglio believes that his three-Test, eight-week adventure in the home of the Springboks 23 years ago was the pinnacle of his time as a player, the Lions winning the series 2-1.

Reviewing the iconic opening Test win from the 1997 series in South Africa, he told RugbyPass: “Looking back on your career, people ask what was the best moment. Naturally, people expect you to say the Rugby World Cup which was amazing obviously because you don’t get to play in many and the opportunity to win one is fantastic. 

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RugbyPass reviews the epic 1997 Lions versus South Africa opening Test in the company of Lawrence Dallaglio

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RugbyPass reviews the epic 1997 Lions versus South Africa opening Test in the company of Lawrence Dallaglio

“But actually in terms of an experience, the best rugby experience of my life bar none was the 1997 Lions tour to South Africa. It was an odyssey really.

“I was lucky, I didn’t grow up in a traditional rugby background but I had a lot of friends who told me about the Lions and I’d read up about them because it is important to understand what you’re going into. 

“A friend of mine in Fulham who runs a second-hand book shop rang me up and said, ‘I have got all these books on these great Lions tours, they are there for you to pick up and read’. 

“I read about Carwyn James, Willie John McBride and the tour to South Africa in ’74, read about some of the times when things didn’t go quite so well. I felt like I knew a lot about the environment I was coming into but even that couldn’t quite prepare me for how special it really is.”

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Dallaglio went on to tour Australia and New Zealand with the Lions in 2001 and 2005, that later trip cut short by injury in the opening match in Rotorua. However, he describes winning in the Springboks’ back yard as something to treasure because of the notorious reputation the South Africans had for physicality.

“I first went to South Africa in ’94 and it hit me very clearly then that the game had been professional for a lot longer in South Africa than it possibly had been in England. Just the physical size of the players there, even in the backs,” he explained. 

“Nowadays there is more of an even spread in terms of people have caught up but in those days you went over there and you just looked at South Africans and thought, ‘Oh my word, they are just big, big guys, big men’. 

“Not just big as in tall but just big, huge, huge people, physically intimidating, physically scary. We all learned very quickly from an early age that if you want to have any chance of beating any South African team, but particularly the Springboks, you have to at least match them physically. 

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“I don’t mean to be unkind but I sort of liken it to the school bully. If you’re in the playground and the school bully comes along, you have a choice – you either take a beating or you stand up to him and South Africa are very much like that. 

“They will run at you and they will run really hard and if that doesn’t work they will run at you again and they will run really hard and if that doesn’t work, they are going to run over the top of you. 

“There wasn’t necessarily that much flexibility with the way that they played because they didn’t have to be, they just bullied their way forward. There has always been a bit of that mentality in the South Africans. 

“Whether it is the Dutch mentality, I’m not quite sure where it comes from but it is definitely there and more often than not they do bully their way to victory. What we were determined to do as a group of Lions was to say that we are going to stand up to that physical onslaught.”

 

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GrahamVF 39 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 7 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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