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Former All Black criticises Ireland's 'motivation' after Autumn Nations Series defeat

Ireland v New Zealand – Autumn International – Aviva Stadium

After one of the most anticipated Test matches on the end-of-year tour, former All Black Jeff Wilson has criticized  Ireland and how they played in Dublin.

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Wilson’s comments come after the off-field drama with Johnny Sexton and Rieko Ioane added extra fire to an already storied rivalry between Ireland and the All Blacks.

Both Ioane and Sexton were in the headlines last month, after an extract from Sextons new book “Obsessed” was released. The exchange was after last year’s blockbuster quarter final between Ireland and the All Blacks where Ioane allegedly said “Don’t miss your flight home tomorrow. Enjoy your retirement, you c**t.’”

The story continued, with Ioane leading the All Blacks haka in Dublin against Ireland, before posting on Instagram after the victory claiming “Put that in the book” referencing Sexton’s new book, which has only intensified the rivalry once again.

Speaking on Sky Sports New Zealand’s Breakdown, Wilson believes it was an average spectacle on the weekend.

“It didn’t live up to expectations, the first 40 minutes were dire, and as a whole combination of things whether it be scrum resets or whether it be the mistakes both teams were making the fact there were so many penalties. Obviously, the weather conditions in some way contributed to that.” Wilson said on The Breakdown.

Ireland’s expectations for this Test match were clearly higher than what was showcased, only really troubling the All Blacks in the short stint when they had 14 men in the second half.

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When asked about what he thought about Ireland’s performance against the All Blacks, Wilson didn’t hold back on criticizing Andy Farrell’s team.

“Ireland didn’t show up, they didn’t show up for this test match”.

The Breakdown panel was questioned about how satisfied they were with the All Blacks beating the previously world number one ranked Ireland.

“It’s nowhere near as satisfying as it’s been because they were nowhere near their best, and it was great for the All Blacks, and satisfying because I think it was our best performance, cause we took them out of the game, but Ireland weren’t there, they did not come and play anything like the number one team in the world,” said Wilson.

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Ireland has since dropped to third in the International World Rugby rankings with 90.58 points, behind the All Blacks (2nd – 91.2 ) and South Africa (1st – 92.46). 

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Last 5 Games

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Wins
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16
Tries Scored
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Points Difference
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First Try
3/5
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First Points
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4/5
Race To 10 Points
4/5

Ireland’s performance on the field wasn’t up to their recent standards, but Wilson wasn’t sold on their body language in Dublin.

“But if you look at their anthem for example, I didn’t see the passion I saw last year at the rugby world cup where you start seeing how desperate they were, you heard them talking during the week about it’s not a revenge game, their coach is talking about it, their captain is talking about it not being a revenge game.

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The 60 Test All Black challenged the mindset of the Ireland players, saying there was a clear lack of motivation in their poor performance.

“I’m sorry if you’re playing the All Blacks, and it’s a game you want to win, you tap into everything you need to possibly win, you have to execute and you have motivation, it’s like they took some of the motivation out, you took that away.

“They had nothing in that game, bar the fact they got a bit of luck just after halftime to get some field position, and we were down to 14 men, they didn’t threaten us pretty much for most of that game.

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Red and White Dynamight 40 days ago

He's right, Ireland were poor. ABs were better but only because they were lucky to catch Paddys on a slippery night. Ireland have been the best drilled teams for years now, this was uncharacteristic. Expect them to bounce back strongly. Farrell is the master coach, best on the Planet.

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CM 40 days ago

Irish expectations were too high. One, it was always going to be tough given that it was the first game of the season for Ireland, up against NZ who are nearing the end of their season. Two, their flyhalf is a novice at international level and needs time.

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Hellhound 40 days ago

It was the Irish first game of the Autumn series. The Irish played the 6N and toured SA. Hardly their first game of the season. They weren't rusty. They just didn't pitch up on the day or they were over confident.


Thinking just because they beat NZ in NZ and barely beating SA in the last test of their 2 test series against SA (which they won with a drop goal in the red with 1 point) that playing at home, this would be a walkover.


When the Irish beat the AB's at home last season, the AB's were in a mess. They were much easier to beat. Not so easy to beat them when they are performing well and when they are not in a mess.

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RedWarrior 41 days ago

Ireland didn't play like a no1 team because they were a de facto no3 team.

France are without a few this weekend but my gut is this will be significantly harder for NZ than Ireland was.

@NB description was more apt. The worry is that the attacking IQ has left the country without being replicated/backed up and NZ removed Ireland's ability to play.

Ireland should be able to deal with this. But this game nearly went out to a 30-13 win, similar to the other dreadful performance in Loftus. That could have been 14 points too.

This hasn't happened since the start of Farrells tenure. Ireland did look weighed down by something and they must get this right. The amount of games Ireland win/steal when not being technically the better team on the pitch is minimal compared with SA/NZ. The loss in Twickenham should have gone down as another 'one that got away' from England.

Conclusion Wilson is wrong. NZ deserve credit and didn't leave many chances for Ireland to force a way to win.

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Cantab 41 days ago

Ireland are now in decline and don't now have the depth to replace players they lose such as Sexton

No team remains at the top forever.

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JW 41 days ago

Those rankings are about right for last year, given that the All Blacks had such dire form before that year it didn't look like that though.

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GM 41 days ago

They seemed up for it, when Porter charged down Ratima's kick in the first minute or two - thoroughly pumped in fact! And again, after VDF's try. Maybe Ireland played as well as they were allowed to play and more credit should be given to the ABs, Jeff, rather than accusing Ireland of 'not showing up' ffs.

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Toaster 41 days ago

Absolutely agree

They made many unforced errors but to say they didn’t turn up

Even at 72 mins with Lowes kick it took an Ardie steal 10m out to quash game


I thought the ABs played smartly and didn’t over play with ball in hand

I was very happy and impressed


What I would say was I was amazed the atmosphere was relatively subdued in the stadium

For such a game too


That didn’t help the Irish

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LRB 41 days ago

Indeed

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JW 41 days ago

Didn't the English last week say that was a way of getting them "up for it"? Kinda like when you beat your chest to get the blood flowing properly?


Anyway, theres 'not showing up' and then theres 'not showing up'. I think Wilson was just saying they didn't show up this time, and he'd be right. At least, it was more like playing the old Irish, not the Irish of recent times.

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JWH 41 days ago

Hit the nail on the head JW, and that doesn't happen for you often. Ireland have been supposedly 'targeting' this match, but then show up and play like its a high school 3rd XV match vs. the All Blacks.

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Hellhound 41 days ago

They pitched up for the Boks. They wanted to win. They failed. I did not see the same passion and drive they had when they came to SA. If they did, this game would have lived up to its hype. The AB's thoroughly deserved this win. To be the best and stay on top, you need to push each and every game hard, like it's a WC Final. Win or lose. Knowing you pitched up and left everything you got on that pitch, even when you lose, you can good because you know you have done everything possible to win. NZ deserved to have their full attention. They didn't.

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JW 41 days ago

I'd just like to distance myself from this reference will I can 😅


nar I love Jeff Wilson, as a player and as a supporter and rugby guy. Don't think he should be the face of rugby in NZ like he is really but that's not his fault he's the best of a bad bunch. Did enjoy Brad and Steven together though!

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Tom 2 hours ago
What is the future of rugby in 2025?

Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol! Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol! Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol!


It's incredible to see the boys playing like this. Back to the form that saw them finish on top of the regular season and beat Toulon to win the challenge cup. Ibitoye and Ravouvou doing a cracking Piutau/Radradra impression.


It's abundantly clear that Borthwick and Wigglesworth need to transform the England attack and incorporate some of the Bears way. Unfortunately until the Bears are competing in Europe, the old criticisms will still be used.. we failed to fire any punches against La Rochelle and Leinster which goes to show there is still work to do but both those sides are packed full of elite players so it's not the fairest comparison to expect Bristol to compete with them. I feel Bristol are on the way up though and the best is yet to come. Tom Jordan next year is going to be obscene.


Test rugby is obviously a different beast and does Borthwick have enough time with the players to develop the level of skill the Bears plays have? Even if he wanted to? We should definitely be able to see some progress, Scotland have certainly managed it. England aren't going to start throwing the ball around like that but England's attack looks prehistoric by comparison, I hope they take some inspiration from the clarity and freedom of expression shown by the Bears (and Scotland - who keep beating us, by the way!). Bristol have the best attack in the premiership, it'd be mad for England to ignore it because it doesn't fit with the Borthwick and Wigglesworth idea of how test rugby should be played. You gotta use what is available to you. Sadly I think England will try reluctantly to incorporate some of these ideas and end up even more confused and lacking identity than ever. At the moment England have two teams, they have 14 players and Marcus Smith. Marcus sticks out as a sore thumb in a team coached to play in a manner ideologically opposed to the way he plays rugby, does the Bears factor confuse matters further? I just have no confidence in Borthers and Wiggles.


Crazy to see the Prem with more ball in play than SR!

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

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JW 11 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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