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Former All Black flanker backs potential Shannon Frizell position change

Hoskins Sotutu tackles Shannon Frizell. (Photo by Joe Allison/Getty Images)

The No 6 jersey has been one of the most difficult to hold down throughout Ian Foster’s tenure as All Blacks head coach, Shannon Frizell has come as close to securing the position as anyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s his best position according to a former All Black flanker.

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Josh Kronfeld, a 54 cap All Black, has been impressed by Frizell’s foray into the locks in recent weeks as the Highlanders struggle with a brutal injury toll. Frizell spent two full games in the No 4 jersey after having to slide into the role midgame in round 11 due to injuries to Will Tucker and Fabian Holland.

The switch put Frizell’s versatility in the spotlight, something All Black selectors have been known to value.

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“I think it suits him,” Kronfeld told SENZ’s Super South.

“I just felt like it gets him more into that tight-loose versus that loose-tight to use those expressions.

“It just puts the ball in his hands a bit more and that short phase part of the game and he just has to get up.”

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Frizell’s ball-carrying ability was a strong contributor to his rise up the All Blacks pecking order in 2022 while his work at the lineout also put him in favour with the coaching group.

“I think at lock you’re in that middle part of the field and you can follow the ball a little bit more, you’re not bound by the structures of what the team format or game is,” Knonfeld added.

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“I’m still coming to grips with the fact that in the modern game the loose forward trio are really structured, where one side will follow the ball for a couple of phases (and) where the other side of the scrum will wait for the ball to come back.

“That happens defensively as well so it means that you’ve got guys occupying zones versus just reading what’s in front of them a little bit.

“I think there’s still a license to read it a little bit but I think often with the dynamic of the structures within a team now, it’s taking away from them to have that little bit of self-injection into the moment.”

Frizzel could join Scott Barrett as utility forwards in the All Blacks setup that can cover both the back row and lock, with Ethan Blackadder and Akira Ioane also vying for selection as more specialised options.

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Tim 535 days ago

He is off contract after the world cup anyway. No doubt Akira Ioane will be given several more opportunities to confirm that he cannot step up to international level.

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Craig 535 days ago

too small to be an international lock is he even 6ft4?

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JW 1 hour ago
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Yeah nar I pretty much agree with that sentiment, wasn't just about the lineout though.


Yeah, I think it's the future of SR, even TRC. Graham above just now posting about how good a night it was with a dbl header of ENGvSA and NZvFrance, and now I don't want to kick SA or Argentina out of TRC but it would be great if in this next of the woods 2 more top teams could come in to create more of these sort of nights (for rugby's appeal). Often Arg and SA and both travel here and you get those games but more often doesn't work out right.


Obviously a long way off but USA and Japan are the obvious two. First thing we need to do is get Eddie Jones kicked out of Japan so they can start improving again and then get a couple of US teams in SRP (even if one its just a US based and augmented Jaguares).


It will start off the whole conferences are crap debate again (which I will continue to argue vehemently against), but imagine a 6 team Pacific conference, Tokyo Sunwolves (drafted from Tokyo JRLO teams), Tokyo All Stars (made up of best remaining foreign players and overseas drafts), ALL Nihon (best of local non Tokyo based talent, inc China/Korea etc, with mainland Japan), a could of West Coast american franchises and perhaps a second self PI driven Hawai'i based team, or Jagaures. So I see a short NFL like 3 or 4 month comp as fitting best, maybe not even a full round, NZvAUSvPAC, all games taking place within a 6hr window. Model for NZ will definitely still require a competitive and funded NPC!


On the Crusaders, I liked last years ending with Grace on the bench (ovbiously form dependent but thats how it ended) and Lio-Willie at 8. I could have Blackadder trying to be a 7 but think balance will be used with him at 6 and Kellow as 7. Scott Barrett is an international 6 sized player. It is just NZ style/model that pushes him into the tight, I reckon he'd be a great loose player, and saders have Strange and Cahill as bigger players (plus that change could draw someone like Darry back). Same with Haig now, hes not grown yet but Barrett hight and been playing 6, now that the Highlanders have only chosen two locks he'll be playing lock, and that is going to change his growth trajectory massively, rather than seeing him grow like an International 6.

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Tom 1 hour ago
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Interesting post. I realise that try was down to Marcus Smith not Slade, this is why I mentioned that England's attack is completely reliant on Smith working miracles. Just wanted to highlight that Slade's little touch was classy and most English players would have cocked it up. Earl has gas, he's very athletic but Underhill is nailed on at 7 in my eyes though. They both need to be on the pitch so we need a tall 6 or 8 to complement them which we have in CCS and potentially Ollie Chessum. We also have young Henry Pollock who may be the 7 by the world cup.


The whole attack needs an overhaul but Richard Wigglesworth our attack coach was a very limited scrum half who excelled at box kicking and had no running game. Spent most of his career with Saracens who mauled, defended and set pieced their way to victory.... Which might have been ok if Felix Jones hadn't quit and been replaced by a guy who coaches Oyonnax who have one of the worst defences in the French 2nd division. I'm not too emotionally invested in England right now because this coaching setup isn't capable of winning anything.


England had no attack when they were winning under Eddie either. They battered teams with huge dominant tackles and won from pressure. The last time England had any creativity in attack was the Stuart Lancaster/Mike Catt era. They played some fantastic attacking rugby but results were mediocre, lots of 2nd place finishes in the 6N although it felt like we were building something special until we got brutally dumped out of our home world cup in the pool stage.

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JW 2 hours ago
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As has been the way all year, and for all England's play I can remember. I missed a lot of the better years under Eddie though.


Lets have a look at the LQB for the last few games... 41% under 3 sec compared to 56% last week, 47% in the game you felt England best in against NZ, and 56 against Ireland.


That was my impression as well. Dunno if that is a lack of good counterattack ball from the D, forward dominance (Post Contact Meters stats reversed yesterday compared to that fast Ireland game), or some Borthwick scheme, but I think that has been highlighted as Englands best point of difference this year with their attack, more particularly how they target using it in certain areas. So depending on how you look at it, not necessarily the individual players.


You seem to be falling into the same trap as NZs supporters when it comes to Damien McKenzie. That play you highlight Slade in wasn't one of those LQB situations from memory, that was all on the brilliance of Smith. Sure, Slade did his job in that situation, but Smith far exceeded his (though I understand it was a move Sleightholme was calling for). But yeah, it's not always going to be on a platter from your 10 and NZ have been missing that Slade line, in your example, more often than not too. When you go back to Furbank and Feyi-Waboso returns you'll have that threat again. Just need to generate that ball, wait for some of these next Gen forwards to come through etc, the props and injured 6 coming back to the bench. I don't think you can put Earl back to 7, unless he spends the next two years speeding up (which might be good for him because he's getting beat by speed like he's not used to not having his own speed to react anymore).

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