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Former All Black says 'England can be really confident' heading into July series

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With the Six Nations all wrapped up, attention now shifts to the next slate of men’s international Tests, which for England and the All Blacks is July’s Steinlager Series.

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Two of the world’s most storied rugby nations are set to collide for a series in New Zealand for the first time since 2014, and while England will be heading into the series as the first opponents of the new Scott Robertson-led All Blacks, the Kiwis will have the benefit of the Six Nations footage to study.

England finished third in the tournament thanks to a statement win over Ireland as well as victories over Italy and Wales, but while toppling a dominant Irish outfit proved their potential, losses to France and Scotland found some significant cracks in the English armour.

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That performance against France in what was essentially a playoff for second place saw England take the lead with five minutes remaining before a 78th-minute penalty from Thomas Ramos stole the win in Lyon.

It was a spectacle, but also another example of where both sides need to improve according to former All Black James Parsons.

“I just thought it was a great game of rugby, went down to the wire obviously, full of attacking flair,” Parsons told the Aotearoa Rugby Pod. “But, it’s the consistency for both teams (that’s the issue).

“Not only week to week, but throughout the game; those peaks and troughs and how long you remain in them is going to be critical.

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“But, from an All Blacks point of view as well, I think England can be really confident with the opportunity they have coming down here.

“They seem to be in a good groove attacking-wise but defensively, yes against Ireland they had a little lower percentage, but they held the French to 36 per cent gain-line success. We know when the French go well they’re a 55-60 per cent gain-line team because of their miraculous threats of (Antoine) Dupont and that.”

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The last time the two met, New Zealand was enjoying a 19-point lead with 10 minutes remaining when England sparked into life and produced a stunning comeback, ultimately falling just short of snatching victory to leave the game tied as the full-time whistle was blown.

Another scoring outburst was produced against France last weekend, with 21 points scored in the six minutes on either side of halftime. Parson’s co-panellist, Super Rugby champion Bryn Hall said the team’s gemini traits can be expected come July.

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“What I’ve seen over the past couple of matches, is they’re going in between two identities with their kicking game,” Hall added. “If they don’t get that momentum, they do go to that contestable game, which I think you do need at the international level. I think you can’t play full tongs for the full 80, you’ve got to have the ability to stunt momentum through your kicking game, kick chase and effort areas, which I think they’re really, really good at.

“I think Marcus Smith coming on very early, he and George Ford interchanging, him being at fullback as well and being able to punch onto the ball flat and getting the ball in his hands in that second pivot role I think is really, really good for England.

“The likes of (Sam) Underhill and (Ben) Earl getting over that advantage line nice and flat, it’s a great DNA for their attacking ability. They’re coming down to New Zealand, you’d like to think they’d like to replicate that attacking ability that they’ve had in the Six Nations.”

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johnz 275 days ago

If they can resist the dwarf throwing contests and jumping off ferries, they might just be in with a chance.

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Tom 1 hour ago
What is the future of rugby in 2025?

Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol! Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol! Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol!


It's incredible to see the boys playing like this. Back to the form that saw them finish on top of the regular season and beat Toulon to win the challenge cup. Ibitoye and Ravouvou doing a cracking Piutau/Radradra impression.


It's abundantly clear that Borthwick and Wigglesworth need to transform the England attack and incorporate some of the Bears way. Unfortunately until the Bears are competing in Europe, the old criticisms will still be used.. we failed to fire any punches against La Rochelle and Leinster which goes to show there is still work to do but both those sides are packed full of elite players so it's not the fairest comparison to expect Bristol to compete with them. I feel Bristol are on the way up though and the best is yet to come. Tom Jordan next year is going to be obscene.


Test rugby is obviously a different beast and does Borthwick have enough time with the players to develop the level of skill the Bears plays have? Even if he wanted to? We should definitely be able to see some progress, Scotland have certainly managed it. England aren't going to start throwing the ball around like that but England's attack looks prehistoric by comparison, I hope they take some inspiration from the clarity and freedom of expression shown by the Bears (and Scotland - who keep beating us, by the way!). Bristol have the best attack in the premiership, it'd be mad for England to ignore it because it doesn't fit with the Borthwick and Wigglesworth idea of how test rugby should be played. You gotta use what is available to you. Sadly I think England will try reluctantly to incorporate some of these ideas and end up even more confused and lacking identity than ever. At the moment England have two teams, they have 14 players and Marcus Smith. Marcus sticks out as a sore thumb in a team coached to play in a manner ideologically opposed to the way he plays rugby, does the Bears factor confuse matters further? I just have no confidence in Borthers and Wiggles.


Crazy to see the Prem with more ball in play than SR!

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JW 5 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

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JW 10 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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