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Former All Blacks call for selection changes for final test against Ireland

Will Jordan (Photo by Phil Walter/Getty Images)

Two former All Blacks, and an ex-Ireland halfback, have called for selection changes as New Zealand aim to bounce back against the Irish this weekend.

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The three-test series between the All Blacks and Ireland will go to a decider in Wellington on Saturday after the tourists clinched a famous first-ever win on Kiwi soil last weekend, beating the hosts 23-12 at Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin.

That result cancelled out the 42-19 thumping the All Blacks inflicted on Ireland at Eden Park in Auckland the week beforehand, meaning the series will go on the line at Sky Stadium in a matter of days.

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The All Blacks are under immense pressure to deliver a successful result following their defeat last Saturday, a loss that leaves them in an all-time low World Rugby ranking of fourth after three losses from their last four tests.

In order to achieve that success, former All Blacks star Jeff Wilson has called for changes to be made to New Zealand’s starting lineup.

Speaking on The Breakdown, Wilson said he anticipates that Will Jordan and David Havili will both be included in this week’s starting lineup after missing out on the run-on team for the first two tests due to Covid.

Both players were excluded entirely from the first test in Auckland, and only Jordan returned via a try-scoring cameo from the bench in Dunedin.

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The former 60-test outside back also believes that lock Scott Barrett will return to blindside flanker after starring there in the series-opener a fortnight ago.

That prospect should be feasible if Sam Whitelock returns from his concussion-enforced absence, as hinted at by All Blacks boss Ian Foster on Sunday.

The same could also be said if Tupou Vaa’i is available for selection after the youngster contracted Covid early last week.

“Going into this series, there would have been a team they wanted to play,” Wilson told The Breakdown.

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“That was disrupted right from the very beginning through Covid, so I expect Will Jordan to get an opportunity, I expect David Havili to get an opportunity in the backline.

“I think they’re two guys that they would have had in their starting lineup, and they’ll go back and look at their original pack, the one with Scott Barrett on the blindside, that did the job well in the first game.”

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Wilson added that further changes in the front row may be forced on the All Blacks as a result of Angus Ta’avo’s expected suspension after the reserve prop was sent off for an accidental head clash with Ireland centre Garry Ringrose last weekend.

Ta’avao’s replacement, according to Wilson, might be Nepo Laulala, although he suggested that may be dependant on how the 40-test tighthead prop is tracking in his recovery from a neck injury.

“Whether or not they make a change in the front row – Angus Ta’avao, I imagine he’s not going to be available for this test match, and it’s where Nepo Laulala is in regards to his recovery and his neck issue at the moment – but that would be where I think the changes will be made.”

Former All Blacks loose forward Steven Bates shared Wilson’s views, noting that the presence of Jordan and Barrett would be of particular benefit for New Zealand given the aerial threat posed by Ireland.

“I tend to agree because the game is going, and you’ve seen it, across the northern-southern hemisphere matches, the game is going really aerial,” Bates told The Breakdown.

“Be it lineout aerial, be it high kicks aerial, and that’s an area that the northern hemisphere – England, Wales and the Irish – have beaten us, so you talk about Will Jordan in that area and that’s probably where he comes in to play.

“The game is going more and more about who can win the contest in the air, and those two people – Scott Barrett, maybe at six, and Will Jordan on the wing – they are two men that don’t lose the aerial battle that often.”

Bates went on to state that the All Blacks can’t afford to start three openside flankers as their loose forward trio, like they did by fielding Dalton Papalii, captain Sam Cane and Ardie Savea in their back row in Dunedin.

The one-test international added that Savea’s early departure from the game, brought on by a mix-up of players following a flurry of red and yellow cards in the first half, hurt the All Blacks badly in their loss to Ireland.

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“All three of them are wonderful players, all the three loose forwards that we bring out, and arguably could go No 7 in any team in the world, but I do agree that I’m not sure we have three No 7s out there to start a test, and that’s where we missed Ardie,” Bates said.

“We couldn’t break down the Irish defence. We couldn’t, they were too good, but Ardie, as a general rule, he finds a way to break down the defence and get us in behind [the advantage line]. We didn’t get that on the weekend.”

New Zealand-born former Ireland halfback Isaac Boss, meanwhile, questioned the form of incumbent All Blacks halfback Aaron Smith as he suggested a change there could be of use for New Zealand.

“I think the 8-9 combination is the big one here,” Boss, who played 22 tests for Ireland between 2006 and 2015, told The Breakdown.

“Ardie being off on the weekend and you’ve got [Folau] Fakatava coming off the bench; Aaron, is he playing on the top of his game at the minute?

“I think that’s a real key part in the All Blacks at the minute, and I think that’s where a big pressure point is.”

As for whether any new caps will be introduced by the All Blacks in Wellington, Wilson said he would “be surprised” if either one of Stephen Perofeta or Roger Tuivasa-Sheck would earn their first caps for New Zealand this weekend.

That sentiment was echoed by Bates, who said the All Blacks have missed out on the chance to develop those players by virtue of losing to Ireland and the series heading to a decider at Sky Stadium.

“They’re in the cauldron this weekend, the All Blacks, aren’t they?” Bates told The Breakdown.

“They really are, so that is good for their character, that is good for their building, but what they do miss out on is people like Roger, potentially, and also Stevie, they don’t get to play, so there is a bob each way.

“They’re in the cauldron, they want to be in the cauldron, but there’s a bit of development they miss out on.”

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Emery Ambrose 864 days ago

Imagine wholesale changes like, Sotutu to start at 8 because he is an 8, Akira at 6 because he is a 6, Goodhue at 13, Ioane at 11 because he's the worlds top wing. Having specialists could go along way in executing the game plan.

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Emery Ambrose 864 days ago

On the Isaac Boss comments on the show, he was defending Ireland hard on the fact they they were 10 nil up and dominating before the cards, even though the ABs split them open a couple times and then turned over the ball when they were on attack.
If he's comparing it like that, then the score with the ABs playing with 14 men for 60 mins was 13-12, so Ireland let in points and also didn't close out the game or put it entirely beyond reach.
I would put it down to the ABs playing bad, dropped balls, not protecting the ruck at times and 14 men for 63mins causing the lose.
It will be a very interesting game if it ends up 15 on 15, if the ABs tighten up the mistakes, Ireland could be in trouble.

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Pete 864 days ago

This could be great for the All Blacks, often heading into a Rugby World Cup as favorites, they have a chance to sneak up on the hosts in the opening game and send a clear message to the tournament. The All Blacks can turn this around and tighten up their systems, unfortunately, it seems we are not learning from the previous 3 losses to Ireland. Contain Sexton, focus on line defense with chop tackles and getting over the ball. It's all the Euro sides do, France being the very best. What's the common factor, Shaun Edwards and Andy Farrell, both good tacticians and former League internationals. We need to get Craig Bellamy, or Wayne Bennett to work on our defensive systems, they seem outdated and are being exploited.

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Gustav 864 days ago

I'm just asking, where are the days that the All Blacks picked their players that's on form? Do you remember when they dropped arguably 1 of the best players the world have ever seen, Christian Cullen, the first season he wasn't on top of his game? Since the "rebuild" began after the Carter/McCaw era, there has been so many form players overlooked for a consistent spot in the All Black team like Ngani Laumape, Akira Ioane, AJ Lam just to name a few. Fozzie and his team rather stick to selecting players out of position or players that hasn't had enough game time in Super Rugby Pasifica. Let me know what you guys think.

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Rob 864 days ago

Ex-All Black calling for changes?????
How is moving Barrett to the side of the scrum from a change. Your continues misleading headlines and Marshall's soft hearted comments is a reflection of our All Blacks...it is what it is!!

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Chris 864 days ago

I think we’ll have to send Heyneke Meyer to teach you kiwis how to count 😂 it’s 14 not 15. Becoming a trend 2013 tri nations 16 men all blacks, referee apologised to Jean de Villiers. Hamilton 7’s 8 men on the field in the final against SA, ref says the extra man didn’t have an effect! How ridiculous. Sort it out or be labeled cheats, Unacceptable.

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Bazza 864 days ago

I think it is time to call it. The All Blacks show signs of being badly coached. there is a dearth of team plays and back line moves. Attack is one on one or kick chases. very rugby league style. they do not use depth . and its been three years now that they have struggled against rush defences.

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JW 33 minutes ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Where? I remember saying "unders"? The LNR was formed by the FFR, if I said that in a way that meant the 'pro' side of the game didn't have an equal representation/say as the 'amateur' side (FFR remit) that was not my intent.


But also, as it is the governing body, it also has more responsibility. As long as WR looks at FFR as the running body for rugby in France, that 'power' will remain. If the LNR refuses to govern their clubs use of players to enable a request by FFR (from WR) to ensure it's players are able to compete in International rugby takes place they will simply remove their participation. If the players complain to the France's body, either of their health and safety concerns (through playing too many 'minutes' etc) or that they are not allowed to be part in matches of national interest, my understanding is action can be taken against the LNR like it could be any other body/business. I see where you're coming from now re EPCR and the shake up they gave it, yes, that wasn't meant to be a separate statement to say that FFR can threaten them with EPCR expulsion by itself, simply that it would be a strong repercussion for those teams to be removed (no one would want them after the above).


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