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Foster's All Blacks won't get let off the hook with patty-cake fixtures this year

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The old boys’ network have reason to be nervous.

Sure, Super Rugby Pacific might be putting you to sleep, but fear not New Zealand footy fans.

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For the first time since we started paying players over the table, in 1996, professional rugby might finally be upon us.

Yes, a test season has arrived that could shame New Zealand Rugby (NZR) into acting like a proper outfit. No more amateur ethos, no more jobs for the boys, we stand on the precipice of seeing an All Blacks coach sacked prior to their contract expiring.

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We’ve got Ireland here for a test series, two matches against the Springboks in South Africa and a home-and-away Bledisloe Cup.

There’s no Tonga to towel up. No Fiji to flog.

No, just some respectable opposition that could put NZR’s courage to the test.

Yes, we’re dealing with might be’s and could be’s here, but let’s just crystal ball gaze for a minute.

Could the All Blacks lose to Ireland? Could they lose one or both of their Rugby Championship clashes with South Africa? Could they share the spoils in their two tests against Australia?

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If nothing else, I know I’ll be watching when these matches roll around.

But imagine if Foster’s All Blacks struggle and imagine if this type of scenario does play out. What’ll happen then?

Sackings are part and parcel of true professional sport, but anathema to how we do things here.

New Zealand coaches largely see their contracts out, particularly rugby ones.

But Foster’s has been an underwhelming tenure thus far, punctuated by losses to Australia, Argentina, Ireland and France. Selections and tactics have caused head scratching, allied to a general alarm at seeing the All Blacks’ pack dismantled on occasions.

So far NZR have stuck solid, extending Foster’s contract until 2023 despite him doing next-to-nothing to deserve that.

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You assume that was to create certainty and quell any speculation that the head coach’s position could be in question.

But, seriously, what if Ireland do come here and do turn the All Blacks over and do win their first test on our soil? What then? Heaven forbid the Irish might go the whole hog and win the actual series.

I guarantee you questions about Foster’s suitability will be running rampant then.

The opposite could prove true too. The All Blacks could comfortably account for Ireland, then go to South Africa and sort out the Springboks. At that point NZR and Foster would be impregnable and some would be calling for a contract extension through to 2027.

But, on the balance of what you’ve seen under his watch so far, do you think that’s probable?

I have no personal skin in the game. The team’s results are neither here nor there to me.

What’s always intrigued me is the way NZR do their business.

Who counts among their favoured few and who doesn’t? Who within the organisation is capable of making a brave decision and who isn’t?

There’s many people beyond the hallways of NZR HQ who regard succession as a flawed system by which to appoint coaches. But, for as long as Foster can win enough games, NZR can continue to justify his appointment.

So what’s acceptable to you, in terms of wins and losses this year? And how grumpy will you get if that threshold’s not met?

It makes for a fascinating test season, with the potential to create the intensity and interest that the game sorely needs right now.

Fan apathy is worse than anger, but I think that’s where people are. They assumed NZR would pick Foster as coach and have struggled to warm to him and the team since.

Far from being irate when the team lost to Ireland and France last year, many were at the point where they weren’t actually watching anymore.

Well, I reckon they’ll be watching this year, with family and friends round, maybe a few beers on board.

It’s all very well to lose to Ireland in Dublin or Chicago, but do it on these shores and we’ll see how angry an All Blacks’ fanbase can get.

NZ Rugby might find it hard to complacently maintain the status quo then.

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Shane 1003 days ago

Who says Mr Foster isn't the right person to be All Blacks coach? The only result that really matters is in about 18 months time. The rugby world cup is what it's all about. In my opinion changing coaches now would just spell the end of the All Blacks chances in France at the world cup. So here's a novel idea instead of bagging the team and/or the coaches try and be supportive of them.

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Lloyd 1003 days ago

I always wonder why the all blacks have to tour Europe after smashing up each other in our competition and the tri nation comp the nz rugby board are only after money , thecoach needs to be sacked along with assistance coach the both have idea about picking players and stop changing there preferred place Borden Barret has been out of form at first five Morwanga is the number one first five B.B cost us in the world cup against England and the Irish France Roberson is the best at the wake up rugby union there's to many north island players in the team at the moment think with your head and not your loho L.Mains will always be my number one coach he's not a trattoria like all the other coaches are

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DarstedlyDan 1003 days ago

Perhaps the worst result, and unfortunately I think the most likely, will be a middling performance. Dropping a test against the Irish, one against the Boks, a draw or narrow win against Oz, one on the NH tour. Always not quite enough at any given time for NZR to do anything about it (“we’re just turning the corner” a-la Eddie Jones). And then a QF exit next year against one of Ireland or France.

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Allan 1003 days ago

If the All Blacks lose to Ireland - even one Test, the writing should be on the wall for Foster and Co. But to lose two to the Boks, or the Bledisloe to the Wallabies, and even the Waikatonese will be baying for blood!! And if any of those things happen, the NZR's credibility and the All Blacks mana (what there is left of it after the disasters last season) will take YEARS to recover in eyes of NZ rugby fans!! I, for one, shudder to think what this year could possibly bring. But if any of those things happen, contract or no contract, Foster should be toast!! And get someone in there who knows how to COACH!

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Spew_81 1004 days ago

This could be the worst year for the All Blacks since 1998. As you say Ireland is playing very well. The Springboks are at the top of their game. The Wallabies (with their overseas players) are a different team. It is realistically possible that the All Blacks could lose all those games. I would be surprised if the All Blacks all of them, but I would be more surprised if they won them all.

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GrahamVF 14 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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