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Four England talking points after their abject defeat in Scotland

The dejected reaction of Theo Dan, Will Stuart and Joe Marler after Saturday's England loss (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Saturday was a brutal reminder that England remain a second-rate Guinness Six Nations team. Just 17 weeks ago, Steve Borthwick’s squad painted Paris a rosy red complexion after clinching a bronze medal finish at the Rugby World Cup.

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What Steve did in a short sprint was incredible,” said Conor O’Shea, the RFU director of high performance, last weekend to RugbyPass. He went on to describe himself as “more than optimistic” about long-term English success based on the amount of young talent coming through the pathway system.

That may well eventually happen, but the feeling on the slow retreat from Edinburgh this weekend is that such giddy progress is years down the line from fruition given the continued limitations in England’s play that were clinically exposed by Scotland.

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The Scots were roundly laughed at following another pool stage World Cup elimination last October, but what transpired at Scottish Gas Murrayfield was a sharp reminder that the France 2023 draw which pitted them against Ireland and South Africa was hugely skewed.

England – who had lost six of their initial nine matches with Borthwick at the helm as Eddie Jones’ successor – hit the jackpot in being able to muddle their way through to the last four before producing a one-off performance that got them within a whisker of beating the Springboks in the rain.

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Borthwick’s yap in recent weeks was that England were genuinely going places, nurturing growth in their game despite a continued lack of penetration in attack and teething issues with the Felix Jones blitz defence.

His enthusiasm was that three- and two-point wins over Italy and Wales had this ‘new’ England nicely set up to finish higher up the table, but the abject manner of their round three defeat will now have fans fearing a repeat of the old – a fourth Six Nations campaign where just two of their five matches are won.

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That would be an unpalatable outcome and a huge dent in the credibility of Borthwick. Only an against-the-odds win over Ireland or France can rescue their spring and see them finish with more wins than losses for the first time since 2020.

That’s a tall order given their meek surrender of a 10-point lead in Scotland in exchange for a nine-point loss. Here are the RugbyPass talking points from this troubling defeat:

Blitz played into canny Scottish hands
It was disconcerting to listen to Borthwick bemoan the lack of cohesion about the England 10/12/13 combination. Ollie Lawrence and Henry Slade had been his preferred midfield partnership for most of last year’s Six Nations, so their buddying-up wasn’t a step into the unknown.

Putting them in tandem with George Ford admittedly was something unfamiliar but as a 93-cap veteran coming into the fixture, it was hardly a rookie risk that should have backfired so damagingly. “Too many fundamental errors,” bemoaned Borthwick.

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Blame the new defensive approach. “It was actually made for him, a blitz defence allows people with good footwork to get behind the defence,” cooed Scottish boss Gregor Townsend about the bludgeoning second-half impact of replacement Cameron Redpath to complement the opening-half damage inflicted by Sione Tuipulotu and Huw Jones.

There has been so much hype about England recruiting Felix Jones from the Springboks to coach their rearguard in place of Kevin Sinfield. References about a more aggressive line speed were plentiful in recent weeks but the scores on the board so far don’t suggest an upgrade.

Eight tries have been conceded in three matches, one more than the seven given up last February in games against the same opposition – Italy, Wales and Scotland. The England honeymoon has ended quickly for the World Cup-winning Jones.

Ball-fumbling culprits everywhere
Momentum-sapping moments, mostly to do with their deeply wounding tally of 22 turnovers in possession, sucked the life out of error-strewn England. They had just 10 turnovers away in Italy and 13 at home to Wales, so Saturday’s level of flakiness easily jumped out as a damaging weakness.

Danny Care and Lawrence were the biggest culprits, coughing up the ball three times each. Care’s 16th-minute out-on-the-full touchfinder was essentially the beginning of the end for his team’s bright 10-point start. Scotland got on the board just four minutes later, but the No9 and No12 can’t be apportioned too much of the blame.

The reality was that 14 of England’s match day 23 contributed to the total turnover tally. George Furbank’s spill (the axed Freddie Steward doesn’t make galling errors like that) and a lost lineout were pivotal in the concession of Scotland’s second and third tries.

Minding the ball is a skill that must be prioritised or Ireland will have a field day.

‘Losing’ the first half yet again
Borthwick highlighted following the round two win over Wales how England – on his watch – had seemingly become much better at ‘winning’ the second half of matches. That run came a cropper against the Scots, the hosts ‘winning’ the second period 13-8.

This outcome showed that a team just can’t keep going to the well and relying on replacement-boosted comebacks to dig them out of trouble. England’s bench was too easily eclipsed by what the better Scottish cover had to offer.

Perhaps instead of an emphasis on second-half ‘wins’. England should prioritise being in front at the break in these games instead of habitually playing catch-up.

Saturday was the third match this month where Borthwick addressed a half-time dressing room with his team down on the scoreboard. That situation can’t continue if England are to stop being Six Nations also-rans.

Toss Ireland a Feyi-Waboso curveball
It was chilling seeing England getting filleted by Duhan van der Merwe’s 25-minute try hat-trick. His was the perfect combination of power and pace that just doesn’t seem to get chosen on the English wings these days.

Playing wide isn’t their thing under Borthwick, unless you’re Henry Arundell scoring tries for fun in the facile dismissal of Chile last September at the World Cup.

Arundell, of course, is no longer England-eligible after opting to stay on at Racing 92. The bulked-up Tommy Freeman has been the beneficiary of that development as well as the retirement of Jonny May, whose ability to fashion a try dried up at France 2023 due to the repeated lack of width in Borthwick’s tactics.

With this curbed approach ongoing, Freeman and favourite wing pick Elliot Daly don’t have fear-factor, van der Merwe-like qualities to pose a consistent scoring threat.

England have needed the boot of Ford to account for 39 of their 64 points this past month, so how about Borthwick changing it up the next day versus Ireland by handing rookie Immanuel Feyi-Waboso his first start?

The 21-year-old needed just a short time off the bench at Murrayfield to get on the scoresheet, changing wings to catch Scotland out and register England’s fifth try in 240 championship minutes.

His cameo caught the eye. “I’m not going to pronounce his name but he was a real threat,” commented opposition boss Townsend in the aftermath. Quite the compliment. Borthwick should feel the same way and serve Ireland a curveball.

While he’s at it, the promotion of George Martin to start is also a must if the speed of Ireland’s ruck ball is to be slowed. Just eight per cent of Irish rucks against the Welsh in Dublin took six seconds or longer.

England must mischief-make, the same as they did against South Africa four months ago. The evidence in Scotland, though, was that they are miles off where they need to be.

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Flankly 298 days ago

Talking point: Always limit your opponent to less than 17 points.

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finn 300 days ago

Well, England ran the ball and it didn’t work.

Hopefully we can now go back to kicking for the last 2 fixtures

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Colin 300 days ago

Slade is not international class. He has no footwork like Marchant and he misses too many tackles. Daly is not a real attacking threat and neither is Freeman on yesterdays performance. But the real issue is the front 5 not carrying ON THEIR FEET like the Irish players so. Chessum takes the ball static is head down and flops over after a metre. The Irish forwards stay on their feet and FIGHT to go forward often with footwork. Wigglesworth cannot inspire attacking play and why does Borthwick pick players better than the 15 starters and leave them on the bench? If Ruskin was available would he be picked? Doubt it. Selection and coaching are still poor when it comes to England.

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Tom 300 days ago

There is still such a lack of cohesion in everything these lads try and do. Apart from Russel and Van Der Merwe the Scottish team isn’t full of stars, same with the Irish, but they're superbly coached and by that I mean they're not overcoached. Both teams have such a sense of purpose, the team has an identity and they all play to it. England are the antithesis of this, you've got a stodgy territory based team who are trying to now throw the ball around and implement a blitz defence, they don't know if they're coming or going. We've got players who are phenomenal for their clubs standing around looking confused, missing tackles and throwing passes at people's heads.

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Chris 300 days ago

Connor O Shea director of high performance
You couldn't make it up

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Fritz 300 days ago

England media is their worst enemy, just asked Owen Farrell

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JW 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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