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Four players who paved the way for Irish success against the All Blacks

Tadhg Furlong of Ireland, centre, and Iain Henderson celebrate winning a scrum penalty during the 2023 Rugby World Cup Pool B match between South Africa and Ireland at Stade de France in Paris, France. (Photo By Ramsey Cardy/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Since Ireland beat the All Blacks for the first time on a historic day at Soldier Field in Chicago in 2016, the emerald green has soared to become the best team in the world.

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Ireland has won 67 of their last 83 internationals since that meritorious success, including four victories against the All Blacks. Their 2-1 series victory in New Zealand last year is part of a 17-match winning streak. For the All Blacks, it was their first defeat in a home series in 28 years.

Despite taking 111 years to record an initial win against the All Blacks, Ireland always had players who could produce problems for New Zealand.

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Tom Kiernan – The wily full-back, known as ‘the Grey Fox’, was Ireland’s most-capped player when he retired in 1973. He had 54 appearances and scored 158 points. As captain of Ireland, he led his country to 16 victories in 24 internationals, and a 10-10 draw against New Zealand which until Chicago 2016 was the best result Ireland had achieved against the All Blacks.

Kiernan might be best known as the coach of Munster who beat the All Blacks 12-0 in 1978, possibly the most famous game in Irish rugby history, so notorious it’s been immortalised by John Breen’s hit play Alone It Stands and the best-selling book Stand Up and Fight: When Munster Beat the All Blacks by Alan English.

Kiernan spent weeks studying video of the All Blacks and the atmosphere at Thomond Park was fever pitch. When centre Seamus Dennison smashed All Blacks winger Stu Wilson in the opening minutes it was reported, “that got the crowd’s dander up and showed they (the All Blacks) were only human.” Wilson later quipped, “We were lucky to score nil.”

Blindside flanker Christy Cantillon scored the only try of the match chasing down a chip ahead by first-five Tony Ward who dropped two goals and kicked a conversion.

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Tragically, halfback Donal Canniffe (2 caps) was informed his father had died suddenly during the match. Lansdowne lock Moss Keane was the most accomplished Munster player. He played 11 consecutive Five Nations campaigns for Ireland.

The All Blacks didn’t concede a try in their next 10 games after the Munster defeat and became the first New Zealand team to win a Grand Slam with a tour record of 17-1.

Kiernan coached Ireland to a Triple Crown in 1982, their first since 1948. He was a leading administrator and Irish rugby writer Edmund van Esbeck reported:

“In every facet of the game he embraced he made a profound impact. Kiernan’s place at the pinnacle of Irish rugby will not depend on tradition, legend, hearty, or deceptive and exaggerated claims. The facts speak for themselves, for his has been a career without equal in the history of Irish rugby.”

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Tony O’Reilly – Dashing winger, and once the richest man in Ireland, Tony O’Reilly holds the record for the most tries by a British and Irish Lion with 37. On the 1959 tour of New Zealand, he was mesmerising, scoring a record 17 tries in 17 games, including two in the Tests.

The 59 Lions were hugely popular for their expansive approach to the game. Despite scoring four tries to nil in the first Test in Dunedin, six Don Clarke penalties gave the hosts an 18-17 victory. The Lions were well beaten in the next two internationals, but an O’Reilly try helped the tourists win 11-8 at Eden Park.

O’Reilly later became a gifted and entertaining after dinner speaker, well-known for his cheeky barbs at the All Blacks.

Mike Gibson When Mike Gibson, a lawyer by trade, retired in 1977 he was Ireland’s most capped player with 81 Tests and had been part of Lions tours in 1966, 1968, 1971, 1974 and 1977.

Sir Colin Meads remarked, “Gibson’s presence in the Lions back-line was the most frustrating influence of all.”

Andy Leslie conceded after the 1971 Lions tour which saw the tourists win their only Test series in New Zealand and 22 of 24 games overall.

“At both Petone and Wellington, we started to approach the game more like the Lions. We moved the ball more and that created more enjoyment and success.”

With his intelligent reading of the game and superior skill, Gibson helped revolutionise midfield play.

He didn’t drink or smoke and he rarely ventured out with teammates. He looked at his diet and he had his own sprint coach. He was an early spark of professionalism.

Gibson was part of the Irish team that drew 10-10 with the All Blacks in 1973 as well as the second-five in the famous 23-11 victory by the Barbarians over the All Blacks at Cardiff Arms Park.

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Tadhg Furlong – Ireland has won five of their last eight Tests against the All Blacks.  With 25 wins in 29 Tests, Johnny Sexton has one of the best records of any captain in Test rugby at present. The Jamie Stockdale try in Dublin in 2018 was glittering, and Peter O’Mahony’s late turnover in 2021 sealed a 29-20 victory. What about the story of Jamison Gibson Park? Exactly a month younger than TJ Perenara he could hardly get a look in at representative level in New Zealand, so he departed to Ireland and has three victories against the All Blacks under his belt.

It’s doubtful anyone has been as influential in Ireland’s success though as tighthead prop Furlong. He has started in all five wins against the All Blacks and started the second Test for the British and Irish Lions in Wellington in 2017. Mobile, skilful and strong on the carry, he’s a beast in the scrums, the rock holding Ireland together. When asked what it’s like to play the All Blacks he said.

“It’s a tough question to answer. You always fear the All Blacks in the way that if you don’t man up and meet them head-on-head it’s a tough day at the office.”

All Blacks Record Since Chicago 2016

Played: 87
Won: 64
Lost: 18
Drawn: 5

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Warner 434 days ago

Taringa whakarongo kia huri , kia mau.
Black Black Black Black
That’s world number one done and dusted.
World number two France will get rolled .
Semis here we come , that’s two nil Southern Hemisphere , SA will make three nil .
Ka nate
Ka matel

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Mark 434 days ago

At least we dont have to hear the Irish arrogance anymore 🙄

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GrahamVF 38 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 7 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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