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Leinster-Munster: 5 talking points as awkward Irish rugby question is asked
By Ian Cameron
Leinster’s 26-12 victory over Munster at Croke Park offered Irish rugby fans plenty to mull over as the season progresses and next month’s Autumn Nations Series looms.
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With a crowd of over 80,000 – a record attendance for a URC fixture – this encounter at GAA headquarters may not have quite lived up 2009 Heineken Cup classic but it did deliver plenty of fascinating sub-plots.
Here are the five talking points from the match:
If anything, the gap is growing
Saturday evening’s Croke Park showdown spoke to the widening gulf that now exists between the two provinces. Munster have now won just two of the last fifteen encounters between the sides.
Leinster’s lightning-fast start – scoring three tries in just over 14 minutes – effectively ended the game as a spectacle before it had a chance to get started. While Munster showed resilience in fighting back in the second forty, scoring two tries of their own, they never truly threatened to overturn Leinster’s lead.
Leinster’s ability to create and capitalise on opportunities in the first half killed off the contest early. In the second half, Leinster minds appeared to have turned to the aftermatch meal, with the 5 league points in the bag care of RG Snyman just before halftime.
Munster head coach Graham Rowntree admitted after the game: “They sensed we were a bit disjointed and got the ball to the edge of the field and took their opportunities. As a headline to the game, from us, it wasn’t a lack of effort. We just have to get better at taking opportunities. They had minimal opportunities, but took them all. They’re a dangerous team like that.”
It’s a recurring theme for Munster. They possess grit and character but continue to struggle in executing under pressure, especially against a team as ruthlessly efficient as Leinster.
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RG Snyman trumps Jean Kleyn
Munster fans booing pantomime villain RG Snyman as he left the field on 50 minutes seemed to miss the point. Munster had been given a Sophie’s Choice option by the IRFU [whose hand had been forced by Kleyn’s Test defection]; keep one of your two giant Springbok locks: Snyman or Jean Kleyn.
Choosing to keep Kleyn seemed like the smart move. He had been a central figure for the province while expensive superstar Snyman spent the majority of his four years in Munster on the sideline injured. Leinster, meanwhile, looked like spendthrifts as they stumped up an eyewatering €600,000 a year to bring the 6’9 Snyman up the M7 to Dublin.
On yesterday’s evidence, it was Leo Cullen and Jacques Nienaber who are getting the better deal. While Snyman didn’t exactly pull up trees in his first ‘home’ performance of the season, he was the better of the pair and his try just before halftime put an exclamation mark on it.
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Ciarán Frawley is now Leinster’s starting 10
Ciarán Frawley’s performance was another highlight. His assured display at fly-half proved pivotal for the men in blue. The 26-year-old not only controlled the tempo of the game but also showcased his distribution and game management skills – constantly keeping Munster on the back foot.
His ability to lead the team from the front will give Leinster coach Leo Cullen a welcome selection headache as the season progresses. Leinster have more direction and clarity with the redhead playmaker pulling the strings.
With Johnny Sexton a ghost of Leinster Rugby’s past, rookie Sam Prendergast away on Emerging Ireland duty, and Ross and Harry Byrne failing to convincingly inhabit the jersey, Frawley has made a stronger case than ever for being Leinster’s first-choice fly-half.
His head-to-head performance against Munster’s Jack Crowley will also not have gone unnoticed by Ireland head coach Andy Farrell either. Crowley – Ireland’s incumbent ten – struggled to impose himself in the face of Leinster’s rush defence, while Frawley thrived, dictating play and creating space for his teammates.
If Frawley continues this form, he should push Crowley for the Ireland starting spot this Autumn.
Leinster and Ireland have front-row concerns
While Leinster emerged victorious, their issues in the front row remain a concern. Tadhg Furlong has struggled to regain his best form since returning from injury last year. Against Munster, the scrum battle was largely even, with referee Chris Busby awarding penalties both ways, but Leinster scrums will take your hand off for parity where Furlong is concerned.
The 31-year-old tighthead has become a latter-day John Hayes—a player whose influence at the set-piece has diminished to the point where not going backwards has now become the primary objective. At his best he is the sport’s premier tighthead, but it’s been a minute since you could make that argument.
This issue extends beyond Leinster to the national side, where Ireland’s depth in the front row has been a point of concern. Furlong’s struggle for form, coupled with injuries to other key players like Rónan Kelleher and Dan Sheehan, throws an unwanted spotlight on the fragility of Ireland’s front row – which was demolished by the Springboks during the summer.
While the 37-year-old Cian Healy’s experience and versatility offers some respite, there is a growing need for a younger generation of Irish props to step up and take on the mantle.
Rugby’s popularity in Ireland continues to soar
The record attendance of 80,468 at Croke Park for a URC fixture is a clear testament to the growing popularity of the sport in Ireland. Leinster have certainly enjoyed a surge in support. Their two Croke Park games this calendar year outsold the entire season attendance of the Dublin GAA team at their own ground.
While the game didn’t quite deliver on spectacle, the atmosphere at Croke Park was electric and the oval ball game appears to be the hottest ticket in town. Whisper it, but is rugby becoming Ireland’s national sport?
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"Saturday evening’s Croke Park showdown spoke to the widening gulf that now exists between the two provinces. Munster have now won just two of the last fifteen encounters between the sides."
Last season they both made the URC semi finals, with Munster having finished ahead of Leinster in the regular season table.
The season before, Munster won the URC, eliminating Leinster in the semis.
It may not be the national sport by numbers . But it's the national sport in performance. Ireland rugby is a world class product. From a Saffa perspective we respect that product.
The national sport comment is facetious or trolling. Rugby is still largely the province of wealthier private schools, with a 2019 survey showing less than 200,000 players of all ages and both genders. Hurling (including camogie) is played by ~100,000 children, and an estimated 170k registered adult players. Gaelic football numbers likely run higher (more counties compete), and soccer remains more easily available to play in car parks or fields before you even get to club registrations. I love to support rugby in Ireland, and it has come on in leaps and bounds, but claiming it as our national sport is disingenuous at best.
That Munster have only beaten Leinster twice in the last, how much matches?, and yet one of their two wins came in last season's Semi Final. It's all very well being a top quality side but if you play fantastically up until the play-off games and then get knocked out by a team that you should have beaten, what does it tell you about their endurance.
They are fantastic but they currently have nothing to show for the first 6 tournaments they have played since the SA franchises have joined.
Not sure why, but I think they play too fast too early. Then by about 60 minutes they are gassed out and give up all the momentum and lead they amassed up until then.
Some comments talking about Busby giving decisions to Leinster were not looking at same march I saw. Especially in 2nd half he was 'evening up'. He did not go against Mun when they had put in he allowed them to play it. Just watched it again. A couple turnovers should not be allowed. Mun held on while another went in for the steal.knock back in the tackle wasn't seen. Offsides allover the game by Mun. So do not blame it on Ref particularly 2nd half that's why Leinster didn't score. He kept it going for Mun 3 times up at line mMun should have gotten yellow , Busby only looked at one side in 2nd half.
Busby was Leinster's best player yesterday. But the IRFU has to be the happiest party.
All the work they continue to do to engineer D4 superiority over the other provinces continues to pay off well.
Until Leinster blows yet another series of finals at the end of every season
Don't know what match you were at but the atmosphere resembled a dead fish, best of luck to Snyman. And its not surprising that Leinster are doing so well, look at all the gifts they have received from the IRFU, with another to come at Christmas. If they don't win silver this year it will be because of their own arrogance.
Munster weren't forced to chose between Kleyn and Snyman because of "Kleyn’s Test defection" leaving them with two SA International. They had to chose because Andy Farrell didn't pick Kleyn for his World Cup Squad and as a result, he was available for selection for SA.
Sounds like you're blaming Andy Farrell for picking an unproven McCarthy over Kleyn. I think that decision has proven a wise one regardless of Kleyn's form for Munster. Kleyn is a great player, as any second row good enough to play for SA, but he's not the best fit for Ireland.
It was Kleyn's choice to play for South Africa, he wasn't and isn't good enough to play for Ireland but South Africa wanted him so he took his chance. He knew exactly what it would mean for Munster and I'm sure no self respecting Munster fan would begrudge his decision. On the other hand flip it around and what if Andy Farrell picks him and gives him a token cap against Italy to keep him IQ, that would be incredibly unfair to the man. Its not Farrells responsibility to keep players IQ its their choice, Kleyn didn't feel he was going to be called up and clearly didn't have the desire to stick it out, why would he when he can go play for his home country? In the same way Frisch decided to go play for his home country. Farrells job is to pick the best players to win games, not to lock down players and restrict their options.