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The whole 23 match day squad is scary. The signs is there for anyone willing to see it. This team is much better than the team from the WC semi. Attack, defence, broken play, speed and strength. Just no comparison. No matter how much we wish for a close game, I honestly don't see that happening. Actually very few have your view point. That is fine too

I do welcome your opinion even though mine is different. That is what keeps the game interesting. Different views makes discussions much more fun and interesting because sometimes people will bring things up not everyone thinks about.

England traditionally are competitive in almost every game, and we should expect that this time around.

It will be interesting to see whether England is able to score tries. They scored 5 against Australia, but only 1 against NZ. My guess is that SA will hold them to 1 or 2 tries, score three or four themselves, and be much better on penalty discipline than the Scotland game (because conceding fewer penalties would have been an area of focus this week).

I am expecting SA to win by about 23-15. But cards, weather, injuries and the bounce of the ref can always intervene.

I respect the Boks and I rate their players, but England's players aren't mugs. They beat a very good Ireland team during the 6 Nations when they were 'backs to the wall' and I feel like they will put out their best performance of November after two starts under their belts.

I foresee a close game that could go either way. We'll see how it unfolds.

The Boks is a whole other level. You overestimate England and underestimate the Boks. Clearly you haven't really looked at the teams. Besides the Irish games earlier this year, the Boks have mainly used experimental sides, even against the AB's.

Now they have chosen their best team available. They have targeted this game. The Boks mean business. Man for man, this Bok team is better. In strategy and player abilities there is no comparison and they are outmatched.

There isn't just monster strength, but unreal speed. In broken play there is currently no better team as well as defensively, not to even talk about the attacking threat, both from front and the back.

I'd say read between the lines, see what everyone is seeing, but clearly you are wearing blinders and is also putting too much emphasis on an AB's team the Boks beat twice this year, the same AB's that beaten England 3 times this year.

When Rassie gets serious, the players become machines. There is no stopping them. That bench is loaded with players that is fast, strong and have exceptional skills. This is a team not many teams will face before the 2027 WC, because the Boks doesn't use their best between WC's in one game. All experimental.

You will be proven wrong on Saturday and then you will wonder how you could have been so wrong. This Bok team means serious business. They came to conquer and not just by a close score. They want to demolish and they will. This England team at most is a 60 min team. Against the Boks that just won't cut it