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'Toulon must be the favourites... the players they bring into the club'

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Toulon's Italian number eight Sergio Parisse celebrates after scoring the last try during the Top 14 rugby match Toulon (RCT) vs Perpignan (USAP) at the Mayol stadium in Toulon on April 15, 2023. (Photo by Christophe SIMON / AFP) (Photo by CHRISTOPHE SIMON/AFP via Getty Images)

Franco Smith admits his Glasgow side will go into Friday’s Challenge Cup final against Toulon as underdogs.

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Warriors are playing at this stage of the competition for the first time, while their French opponents have won the Champions Cup three times in the past decade and have reached four other European finals, including last year when they lost to Top 14 rivals Lyon.

Although well aware that Glasgow lack the continental experience of Toulon, Smith is excited about leading his team into the showpiece at Dublin’s Aviva Stadium.

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“I’m really glad for the team, the players, the staff and the coaching group,” said the Warriors head coach. “It’s also important for the city.

“Toulon must be the favourites, this is their fifth (Challenge Cup) final, the players they bring into the club have always played at a high level, World Cup winners, they definitely have a lot of experience and I think that goes without saying.

“I appreciate that they are definitely the favourites and I think they will know the environment a lot better than us, but we get to learn.”

South African Smith feels Glasgow’s run to the final is further evidence that Scottish rugby is moving in the right direction.

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“I definitely feel there’s been a lot of work put into Scottish rugby the last few years, the way that the national team has grown over the past seven or eight years with Gregor (Townsend) at the helm there and the quality of the players and how the product has been developed has been noticeable,” he said.

“For us now, and for the Scottish rugby environment, I think this has been a reward for all the hard work and some of the money spent and effort put in. I think it comes down to a longer process, and I am proud to be part of it.”

Captain Kyle Steyn believes Glasgow must trust the style of rugby that helped them get to the final and should not allow the occasion to prompt a change in their approach.

“The goal was to be playing rugby that inspires the people of Glasgow, that represented Glasgow city as a whole,” he said.

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“We’ve spoken about the fact this is going to be a battle and we need to be excited and inspired by that challenge.

“The focus is on doing what makes us good and doing what we’ve done all season to get to this position. We don’t want to change too much of that going into the final.”

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JW 4 hours ago
How law changes are speeding up the game - but the scrum lags behind

so what's the point?

A deep question!


First, the point would be you wouldn't have a share of those penalities if you didn't choose good scrummers right.


So having incentive to scrummaging well gives more space in the field through having less mobile players.


This balance is what we always strive to come back to being the focus of any law change right.


So to bring that back to some of the points in this article, if changing the current 'offense' structure of scrums, to say not penalizing a team that's doing their utmost to hold up the scrum (allowing play to continue even if they did finally succumb to collapsing or w/e for example), how are we going to stop that from creating a situation were a coach can prioritize the open play abilities of their tight five, sacrificing pure scrummaging, because they won't be overly punished by having a weak scrum?


But to get back on topic, yes, that balance is too skewed, the prevalence has been too much/frequent.


At the highest level, with the best referees and most capable props, it can play out appealingly well. As you go down the levels, the coaching of tactics seems to remain high, but the ability of the players to adapt and hold their scrum up against that guy boring, or the skill of the ref in determining what the cause was and which of those two to penalize, quickly degrades the quality of the contest and spectacle imo (thank good european rugby left that phase behind!)


Personally I have some very drastic changes in mind for the game that easily remedy this prpblem (as they do for all circumstances), but the scope of them is too great to bring into this context (some I have brought in were applicable), and without them I can only resolve to come up with lots of 'finicky' like those here. It is easy to understand why there is reluctance in their uptake.


I also think it is very folly of WR to try and create this 'perfect' picture of simple laws that can be used to cover all aspects of the game, like 'a game to be played on your feet' etc, and not accept it needs lots of little unique laws like these. I'd be really happy to create some arbitrary advantage for the scrum victors (similar angle to yours), like if you can make your scrum go forward, that resets the offside line from being the ball to the back foot etc, so as to create a way where your scrum wins a foot be "5 meters back" from the scrum becomes 7, or not being able to advance forward past the offisde line (attack gets a free run at you somehow, or devide the field into segments and require certain numbers to remain in the other sgements (like the 30m circle/fielders behind square requirements in cricket). If you're defending and you go forward then not just is your 9 still allowed to harras the opposition but the backline can move up from the 5m line to the scrum line or something.


Make it a real mini game, take your solutions and making them all circumstantial. Having differences between quick ball or ball held in longer, being able to go forward, or being pushed backwards, even to where the scrum stops and the ref puts his arm out in your favour. Think of like a quick tap scenario, but where theres no tap. If the defending team collapses the scrum in honest attempt (even allow the attacking side to collapse it after gong forward) the ball can be picked up (by say the eight) who can run forward without being allowed to be tackled until he's past the back of the scrum for example. It's like a little mini picture of where the defence is scrambling back onside after a quick tap was taken.


The purpose/intent (of any such gimmick) is that it's going to be so much harder to stop his momentum, and subsequent tempo, that it's a really good advantage for having such a powerful scrum. No change of play to a lineout or blowing of the whistle needed.

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