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Glasgow player ratings vs Toulon | 2023 Challenge Cup

Glasgow's Huw Jones during a EPCR Challenge Cup Final match between Glasgow Warriors and RC Toulon at the Aviva Stadium, on May 19, 2023, in Dublin, Ireland. (Photo by Craig Williamson/SNS Group via Getty Images)

Glasgow player ratings: Franco Smith’s men got run over here, looking flaccid in attack and defence in a disappointing night for the Scottish side. Frankly, it was men against boys for much of it, with unforced errors in the red zone destroying any chance Glasgow had of making a game of it.

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15. Oliver Smith – 5
Lucky to escape sanction for a seatbelt tackle that failed to stop Baptiste Serin. Was one of the Glasgow’s brighter attacking weapons, although that’s not saying much going off tonight’s tepid collective performance.

14. Sebastian Cancelliere – 5
The Argentine saw a bit action in the first half, a decent breakout down the right flank sticking out. A poor decision in the 47th minute fluffed a near certain Glasgow try. Probably deserved Glasgow’s consolation try.

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13. Huw Jones – 4
A game Jones will do better to forget as it largely passed him by. Part of a lethargic Glasgow attack that would have struggled to burst a crisp packet. His spilled pass in the 54th minute summed up proceedings.

12. Sione Tuipulotu – 6
One of the few Glasgow backs who could say he gave a half decent account of himself, his embarrassing second-half reception spill aside.

11. Kyle Steyn (c) – 7
A couple of half decent carries but didn’t really worry RCT’s backline until the 55th minute when he didn’t brilliantly to dummy his way through the Toulon defence. He struck again in the 73rd minute will another smart inside line.

10. Domingo Miotti – 5
Vacillated wildly between looking out of his depth at times and moments of real competence. Hard to argue he justified his selection.

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9. George Horne – 5
Struggled to keep pace up with Serin, who was the star of the show early on. Toulon found it too easy to slow down him down at the base of the ruck.

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1. Jamie Bhatti – 5
The loosehead could barely contain Beka Gigashvili in the opening exchanges, even if it was Fagerson on the other side that had the worst of it. Grew into the game, a dominant 39th minute scrum penalty standing out.

2. Fraser Brown – 4
A game pockmarked by errors, with Glasgow’s lineout bordering on an omnishambles. Things got better when Matthews came on.

3. Zander Fagerson – 4
Was under pressure from the off at set-piece, with Dany Priso absolutely melting the Lions prop in the first 30 or so minutes. As with Bhatti, battled back into the game at the set-piece at least.

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4. JP du Preez – 6
The giant South African carried competently for a big man and gave as good as he got with in the close exchanges. Maybe lacked the dynamism of his opposing numbers.

5. Scott Cummings – 4
Usually a solid lineout bet, his failure to take the ball in the 18th minute lead to Toulon’s second try. Wasn’t effective here.

6. Matt Fagerson – 5.5
Another lineout spiller. Stayed in the fight, a turnover at the start of second half yards from the Toulon line sadly coming to nothing for the Scots.

7. Sione Vailanu – 5
Playing at seven, presumably to combat the Toulon size advantage, but didn’t exert the physical dominance he’d be used to in the URC. Darge, had he started, might have offered more by way of ground-hogging.

8. Jack Dempsey
A first half to forget for the Aussie, who was of a number of sinners when it came to Glasgow’s error stricken attack.

Replacements – 6: Ali Price was an improvement on Horne as was Johnny Matthews on Brown. Toulon handsome lead ultimately saw their effort wain and the Glasgow reinforcements saw the benefit.

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JW 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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