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Good week, bad week: Chris and Dan set to break try records

Who's that try-scoring man?

A rare appearance for Chris Ashton in the ‘good’ column this week, but no such luck for Willie Le Roux. Oh, Willie…

GOOD WEEK

European Rugby

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As is the case in many sports, rugby administrators often get a bad press – let’s be honest, they hardly make themselves difficult targets – but European Professional Club Rugby (EPCR) deserves plenty of positive recognition for its decision to host the finals of the 2018 and 2019 Champions and Challenge Cups in relative rugby badlands of Bilbao’s San Mamés and Newcastle’s St James’ Park respectively. With the finals of this year’s tournaments held in Lyon – as opposed to, say, Twickenham or Cardiff, which hosted 12 of the 19 Heineken Cup finals – EPCR is continuing to fulfil a promise it made when it took over the tournaments two years ago. It’s taking rugby into new areas, and that has to be good for the game. Organisers of other tournaments, take note.

Chris Ashton

European rugby’s 21st-century marmite man scored twice in Saracens’ Champions Cup quarterfinal against Glasgow to move level with Vincent Clerc as the tournament’s leading try scorer, with 36 touchdowns. What’s even more remarkable is that he reached his tally in just 59 games. Clerc has played 82 European games (including 11 as a replacement), and had played just shy of 70 times when he scored number 36 for Toulouse during the 2015/16 season. As well as his brace in the Glasgow encounter, Ashton made another score and could have had added to his tally. Chances of him making the Lions’ tour? Slim.

Dan Norton

Speaking of try-machines, here’s one international player you probably won’t have heard of if you don’t follow England sevens. But Dan Norton, who has been a sevens international since 2009, is an Olympic silver medallist and this weekend likely to set a new all-time try-scoring record at the Hong Kong Sevens. He is currently level on 244 tries with Kenya’s Collins Injera.

Here are just a few of the 244:

Zebre

Anything Treviso can do, rivals Zebre can do as well. A week after the former beat Ospreys to create a gap in the two Italian teams’ personal Pro 12 battle for next season’s Champions Cup place, the latter closed it up again with a deserved 25-22 win over Connacht in a rearranged match. To be fair, the win was no less than Zebre deserved. They were 22-10 up when original fixture had to be postponed at halftime as a storm of biblical proportions hammered Parma’s Stadio Lanfranchi. So now, with four rounds of the regular season remaining, just two points separate the sides at the bottom of the Pro 12.

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Billy Twelvetrees

Ah, Billy. Three years ago, Goldilocks was an England regular. Today, he’s a club journeyman. But, every now and then, he reminds rugby fans that he is somewhat smarter than the average midfield bear. He did it again in Gloucester’s come-from-behind Challenge Cup quarterfinal win against Cardiff Blues, having moved from his usual midfield position to fly-half following Billy Burns’ early concussion. Not only did he notch five penalties, his inch-perfect crossfield kick for Jonny May’s try in was a delight that kickstarted Gloucester’s win. A Lions’ bolter for 10? Stranger things have happened.*

BAD WEEK

Willie Le Roux

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This breathtaking Wasps breakout had all the hallmarks of one of the great European rugby tries, a touchdown that would be played and replayed over and over again in years to come. Apart from one small and trivial matter.

https://youtu.be/1OHk1WoNKes

Josaia Raisuqe

The Stade Francais man has form for discipline issues. He was banned for 15 weeks in January 2016 for an eye-gouging incident during a Champions Cup pool match against Munster. Now, he has been cited for a stamp on Ospreys’ Keelan Giles during the Top 14 side’s Challenge Cup quarterfinal win at the Principality and could receive a ban ranging from two to 52 weeks. He received a yellow card at the time, after referee Matthew Carley consulted with the TMO, and his game ended when he was shown another early in the second half for a more minor incident. There is a silver lining, for Stade if not the player, though. They won each of those games, despite losing a player.

Mike Ford

To lose one head coaching job may be considered unfortunate. To lose two in less than a year, however…. Mike Ford was sacked by Bath in May 2016, after a disappointing season on the pitch and worsening tensions off it. He returned to coaching with Toulon early in this campaign, taking over from Diego Dominguez as head coach in October. But, while his contract with the Top 14 side was set to finish at the end of the season anyway, he and the club have parted company ‘by mutual consent’ nearly two months earlier than anticipated following the 29-9 Champions Cup quarter-final defeat at Clermont.

TMOs

Super Rugby seems to have the whole video referee thing much more sorted that it is in the northern hemisphere, where referees still ask “try, yes or no?” or – worse – “is there any reason I can’t award the try?” (yes, two minutes and 17 phases ago you missed the tiniest of knock-ons) and review video footage on the big screen for what seems like hours while, all around them, fans holler and jeer. And even then, they get it wrong. In their Champions Cup match against Munster, Toulouse were awarded a try despite a pass so forward it wore lingerie; while Francois Cros was yellow carded for an ugly late elbow on Duncan Williams only after the referee had watched the footage from all angles, at all speeds, several times. As was the Josaia Raisuqe incident at the Principality. Still, could be worse. Could be golf.

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French rugby

The barney between the FFR and the LNR is like watching galaxies collide in super-slow-motion. You know it’s going to be a disaster, but it’s cruelly fascinating to watch in a really boring, takes-forever kind of way. In the week of the merger debacle, you may remember, the LNR postponed matches involving Racing 92 and Stade Francais. Then, two days after the matches should have been played but weren’t because they had been postponed, the FFR un-postponed them – and said that the games had been forfeited.

Now, the LNR has gone to court to have the matches un-forfeited and re-postponed so that they can be rescheduled for later this month. But the court they went to washed its hands of the matter, which means the LNR has to go to another court to make its case. It has even released the dates and times that the rearranged matches will be played if they go ahead (Stade could end up playing three games in eight days). Meanwhile, four teams – three of them with playoff ambitions and one with a Challenge Cup semifinal to play and Top 14 relegation to avoid – are in limbo as time rapidly runs out on the season. All of which does French rugby no favours whatsoever.

*No, they haven’t.

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JW 37 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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