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They’re England caps, you can’t just dish them out for free - Goode Questions Jones’ Squad

Former England fly half Andy Goode has questioned Eddie Jones’ decision to take a number of young, inexperienced players in his 31-man squad to tour Argentina in the summer ahead of top Premiership performers like Christian Wade and Semesa Rokoduguni.

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Speaking on The Rugby Pod, the flyhalf, who won 17 caps for his country, said it was commendable to look to the future but that England caps are special and shouldn’t be dished out to youngsters who haven’t earned them ahead of those playing well in the top flight of English rugby.

“A development tour is great but this isn’t a development tour. It is two fully fledged international games and boys are going to get caps that, in my opinion, don’t deserve them on form ahead of other guys who are playing exceptionally well in the Premiership,” said Goode.

“Looking long term is great but they’re England caps, you can’t just dish them out for free without players having grafted and earned the right to get them.”

Jones has picked 15 uncapped players for the two tests on June 10 and 17. The squad has 537 caps in total between them with James Haskell, Chris Robshaw, Dylan Hartley, Danny Care, Matt Mullan, Tom Wood, Mike Brown, George Ford and Joe Launchbury accounting for 487 of them.

The selection of 19-year-old London Irish winger ahead of Christian Wade and Semesa Rokoduguni, who have scored 16 and 10 tries respectively in the Premiership so far this season, particularly rankled Goode.

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“He’s picked Joe Cokanasiga, the London Irish winger, and he hasn’t played a Premiership game,” he said.

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“A lot of people will say that Eddie Jones is brilliant for looking to the future but Christian Wade and Semesa Rokoduguni, who are the two top try scorers in the Premiership, haven’t got a sniff of the England tour.

“Cokanasiga is a big unit and a young kid and he will be a very good player but Wade is tearing up trees in the Premiership, as is Rokodoguni.

“With Anthony Watson and Jack Nowell on the Lions tour, they have got to be the next two cabs off the rank on form.”

Former Scotland second row and ex-England U21 international Jim Hamilton was also shocked that his Saracens team-mate had been overlooked in favour of Tom and Ben Curry of Sale Sharks, who have made just five Premiership starts between them.

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“Jackson Wray is in Saracens’ starting line-up and has been one of our best players but England are picking the Curry brothers. They’re very good players and I can see what they’re doing but still,” he added.

The Rugby Pod is a weekly rugby union podcast, featuring Goode and Hamilton, that provides fans with news, views, interviews, analysis, transfer rumours and lots more. Download The Episode here

England’s 31-man squad for Argentina tour 

Forwards

Will Collier (Harlequins, uncapped), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), Ben Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 3 caps), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap), Dylan Hartley – captain (Northampton Saints, 84 caps), James Haskell (Wasps, 75 caps), Paul Hill (Northampton Saints, 5 caps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 8 caps), Nick Isiekwe (Saracens, uncapped), Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 42 caps), Matt Mullan (Wasps, 15 caps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, 55 caps), Sam Underhill (Ospreys/Bath Rugby, uncapped), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 50 caps).

Backs
Mike Brown – vice-captain (Harlequins, 60 caps), Danny Care – vice captain (Harlequins, 71 caps), Joe Cokanasiga (London Irish, uncapped), Nathan Earle (Saracens, uncapped), George Ford – vice captain (Bath Rugby, 35 caps), Piers Francis (Auckland Blues/Northampton Saints, uncapped), Sam James (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Alex Lozowski (Saracens, uncapped), Harry Mallinder (Northampton Saints, uncapped), Joe Marchant (Harlequins, uncapped), Jack Maunder (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 25 caps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), Denny Solomona (Sale Sharks, uncapped).

Unavailable for selection due to injury: Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Sam Jones (Wasps)

England’s two-Test tour to Argentina

Estadio San Juan del Bicentenario, San Juan, 10 June, kick-off 12.15pm (BST)

Estadio Brigadier General Estanislao Lopez, Santa Fe, 17 June,kick-off 12.15pm (BST)

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JW 15 hours ago
The Fergus Burke test and rugby's free market

I can guarantee that none of the three would have got a chance with Ireland in the state they arrived from NZ.

Why would you think they would?

Two of them were at Leinster and were bench-warmers when they arrived

Sometimes you can be beyond stupid JW.

Haha look who's talking! Hello? Can you just read what you wrote about Leinster to yourself again please lol

It took prob four seasons to get James Lowe's defence up to the required standard to play international footy. If Jacob Stockdale had not experienced a big slump in form he might not have gotten the chance at all.

I'm really not sure why you're making this point. Do you think Ireland are a better team than the All Blacks, where those players would have been straight in? This is like ground hog day the movie with you. Can you not remember much of the discussions, having so many readers/commentors? Yup, 26/7/8 would have been the perfect age for them to have been capped by NZ as well.


Actually, they would obviously have been capped given an opportunity earlier (where they were ineligible to for Ireland).


TTT, who was behind JGP at the Hurricanes, got three AB caps after a couple of further seasons acting as a backup SR player, once JGP left of course. In case you didn't see yourself contradicting your own comments above, JGP was just another player who became first choice for Ireland while 2nd (or even 3rd/outside the 23 in recent cases) for Leinster. And fair enough, no one is suggesting JGP would have surpassed TJP in three or four years either. He would have been an All Black though, and unlike in your Leinster example, similar performances from him would have seen TJP move on earlier to make way for him. Not limited him like he was in Ireland. That's just the advantage of the way they can only afford so many. Hell, one hit wonders like Seta Tamanivalu and Malakai Fekitoa got rocketed into the jersey at the time.


So not just him. Aki and Lowe both would have had opportunities, as you must know has been pointed out by now. It's true that the adversity of having to move to Ireland added a nice bit of mongrel to their game though, along with their typical development.


Aki looked comfortable as the main 12 in his first two seasons, he was fortunate SBW went back to league for a season you could say, but as a similar specialist he ultimate had to give the spot back again on his return. There's certainly no doubt he would have returned and flourished with coachs like Rennie, Wayne Smith, and Andrew Strawbridge, even Tom Coventry. All fair for him to take up an immediate contract instead of wait a year of course though.


It's just whatever the point of your comments are meant to make, your idea that these players wouldn't have achieved high honors in NZ is simply very shortsighted and simplistic. I can only think you are making incorrect conclusions about this topic because of this mistake. As a fan, Aki was looking to be the Nonu replacement for me, but instead the country had the likes of Laumape trying to fill those boots with him available. Ditto with Lowe once Rieko moved to center.

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