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'Harden up' - NZ commentator ridicules Pumas players and coaches for 'crying'

Juan Imhoff gets a dose of the feels (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

A former New Zealand commentator has derided the Pumas players and coaches for crying in the aftermath of their historic win over the All Blacks over the weekend.

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Pumas players and burly head coach Mario Ledesma openly choked back tears at the final whistle at the Bankwest Stadium, in what was a momentous occasion for Argentinian rugby and indeed neutrals fans around the world. But not everyone thought the outpouring of emotion was appropriate, or rather, manly enough.

Keith Quinn, an institution in New Zealand sporting circles, came under heavy criticism himself for comments he made on social media in which he instructed the Pumas and others to ‘harden up’. The 74-year-old, who has commentated on rugby for decades, suggested modern men need to man up and cry less.

“What’s happening to bloke-ism? In the TV news the last few days Dustin Johnson, Lewis Hamilton and Puma rugby players and coach all crying their eyes out.

“Would the sight of All Blacks wearing pink boots have moved Pinetree Meads? I doubt it. Harden up – blokes of today!”

Former All Blacks winger turned pundit John Kirwan, a long time champion of men’s mental health issues and a man who has suffered from depression, said of the comments: “My highlight from the weekend was the team and Mario Ledesma crying, made me cry. Beautiful.”

Crowd Goes Wild anchor Andrew Mulligan didn’t pull his punches in response to the veteran, tweeting: ‘That’s some dumb shit tweeted right there, Keith.’

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There were literally hundreds more in that vein.

To his credit Quinn had lauded Los Pumas for their victory a couple of days earlier, writing: “So proud for Pumas rugby and specially Frankie Deges (who has been writing from Buenos Aries in English, for the ‘outside world’ always in hope of big things for his beloved blue and whites.) Tonight we salute you Frankie; we will have a helados and CocaLite for your rugby loyalty!”

His comments may have struck the wrong chord on this occasion, but maybe speak to a generational shift in perception about what is and isn’t manly or ‘blokish’ behaviour.

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In regards to Mack Hansen, Tuipoloto and others who talent wasnt 'seen'..

If we look at acting, soccer and cricket as examples, Hugh Jackman, the Heminsworths in acting; Keith Urban in Nashville, Mike Hussey and various cricketers who played in UK and made the Australian team; and many soccer players playing overseas.


My opinion is that perhaps the ' 'potential' or latent talent is there, but it's just below the surface.


ANd that decision, as made by Tane Edmed, Noah, Will Skelton to go overseas is the catalyst to activate the latent and bring it to the surface.


Based on my personal experience of leaving Oz and spending 14 months o/s, I was fully away from home and all usual support systems and past memories that reminded me of the past.


Ooverseas, they weren't there. I had t o survive, I could invent myself as who I wanted, and there was no one to blame but me.


It bought me alive, focused my efforts towards what I wanted and people largely accepted me for who I was and how I turned up.


So my suggestion is to make overseas scholarships for younger players and older too so they can benefit from the value offered by overseas coaching acumen, established systems, higher intensity competition which like the pressure that turns coal into diamonds, can produce more Skeltons, Arnold's, Kellaways and the like.


After the Lion's tour say, create 20 x $10,000 scholarships for players to travel and play overseas.


Set up a HECS style arrangement if necessary to recycle these funds ongoingly.


Ooverseas travel, like parenthood or difficult life situations brings out people's physical and emotional strengths in my own experiences, let's use it in rugby.

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