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'He should never captain the All Blacks again': NZ leadership guilty in numerous late collapses
By Sam Smith
The final nine minutes of the All Blacks vs England match have motivated endless criticism from Kiwi pundits. Broadcaster Brendan Telfer has labelled the closing minutes of the All Blacks’ season the worst in decades and called for Sam Whitelock to never captain the side again.
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Telfer has three decades of sports broadcasting experience and leaned on every moment of it to blast the All Blacks, calling out their mental fortitude and leadership as the key issues in an underperforming season which featured several historic losses.
The one positive note Telfer agreed on from the performance was that it would remind the Kiwi faithful that all is not well despite the run of more positive results to end the season.
Telfer spoke to Martin Devlin on The Platform:
“After a lot of thought and consideration,” Telfer started. “And casting my mind back over the last god knows how many decades, I’ve come to the conclusion the last nine minutes of that match on Sunday morning was the worst nine minutes of rugby the All Blacks have played since 1999 in the meltdown against France in that semi-final down in Cardiff.”
That match saw the All Blacks winning 26-13 with just over 20 minutes to play, but once the 70th minute rolled around, France had scored 26 unanswered points and went on to win 43-31.
However, the final minutes of the Twickenham Test isn’t the only example of the All Blacks dropping off and letting their opposition back in the game this season.
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“We’ve seen it a few times this year, haven’t we?” Telfer continued. “They were up by 18 points against Australia, they conceded 23 unanswered points against Scotland, they allowed the Japanese back into that match a few weeks ago in Tokyo and against South Africa, so it’s not a physical issue with this All Blacks side… it’s the mental capacity.”
The All Blacks’ leadership was then called into question, as the composure of the team crumbled when Beauden Barrett was sent off and England’s attack picked up the intensity.
“Well he should never captain the All Blacks again, I’m sorry. All due respect to Sam Whitelock, great player that he’s been for the All Blacks, fantastic lineout jumper, fantastic player around the field but where was he in those last nine minutes?
“It brings up an interesting question doesn’t it – would they have played out a different nine minutes of rugby if Sam Cane had been on the field?”
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While Cane was present and captain for the Bledisloe Test in Melbourne where the Wallabies launched an epic comeback only to concede a famous timewasting call and have the All Blacks win at the death, the flanker has been absent on the shaky Northern Tour which made up the majority of Telfer’s aforementioned list of 60-70 minute All Black performances in 2022.
The Debate over Cane’s influence as captain was quickly undermined by a more prevalent debate over whether Cane was deserving of a starting role on the team, with Dalton Papali’i impressing throughout the tour.
The in-form Ardie Savea was the next name to feature in the captaincy debate but reports that it was Savea who called for TJ Perenara to box kick late in the Test called into question the dominant No 8’s decision-making.
That decision to kick was seen by Telfer as symbolic of the lack of proper leadership within the All Blacks’ camp.
“I mean I’m still scratching my head and trying to answer this question, why on earth did TJ Perenara put that crazy kick into no man’s land? 78 minutes gone on the clock, you’re up by seven points, it’s on halfway – yeah, I understand what people are saying, they didn’t want to give away a penalty, this guy (the referee) was pinging every maul and every ruck and England (could) get a penalty, kick it down into their 22 and dial up one of their rollover tries from a rolling maul.
“Okay, but if he’s going to kick, why didn’t he kick it deep? So they’re saying to the Englishman ‘you’ve got 100 meters, you’ve got to run some way or another to win this match.’
“(Instead) he gives them a little kick in the middle of between 22 and halfway, (England) runs into open territory, not a black jersey in sight, 30 seconds later they score. It’s the mental decisions they’re making.”
"Telfer has three decades of sports broadcasting experience"
but zero experience playing. His experience of 'pressure' is from an arm-chair.
To blame Whitelock, Foster or whoever from the playing/coaching group and not laud how good England were in maximising the numerical advantage is proof these guys should just remain hacks.
What a dumb and silly suggestion - how do you explain the Crusaders success???? Eh !
Who gave the command for Perinara to boot for touch....Ardie apparently....duh....
When you are a back short, all the opposition need to do is flick it wide, take the advantage down the sideline, feed it to your forwards (a good pack) and push over.....or same but kick it out, line-out 5 meters, and pushover.
Guarantee if BB hadn't stuffed up the tackle etc.,might have been 5 points, maybe 7, but that would have been it.
I totally with the opening remarks of broadcaster Brendan Telfer. The mental fortitude and leadership issues have not been resolved, and continue to dog this current crop of players in our national team. Having been selected as the cream of our current top of players for their special talents does not align with required mental preparation and the ability to sustain the level of controlled aggression in each players mind for the entire 80 minutes or more of a game if required. Moreover, the lack of leadership is woefully apparent. Games are won or lost even before players arrive at the stadium changing rooms. The All Blacks have lost their mojo. We need a captain who will lead from the front for the entire game, see or anticipate all the plays of the opposition in real time and prepare his leadership team to accommodate any changes in play from the opposition. The level of sustained aggression has gone begging. As an expat Kiwi of Polynesian extraction living abroad, l have observed the players of Polynesian descent are lacking the ability to sustain the mental level of aggression required on the field. This must change. The hard won reputation of the All Black is already in grave danger of being perceived by other teams across the globe as having descended to the pit of mediocrity.
Yes, it was a troubling last 10 or so minutes, that quite frankly was piss poor play from the AB’s.
I thought I was watching a different team, making decisions that we expect from other teams ,not us.
This mental breakdown has to be addressed, recognised and dealt with in a hurry.. we can’t take this attitude to France next year Or we’ll be blown away .
Bloody hell, Foster & his sidekick Cane have dumbed down the ABs since 2020 & all of a sudden it's all the replacement skipper's fault? This downward spiral of rugby IQ & mental acuity is a pattern over three years not an EOYT anomaly. Hard for a last minute fill in skipper (who joined the tour late) to slot into an already dysfunctional system & make a meaningful impact. Foster will continue to coach talent down to his level & hamstring the ABs no matter how excellent Ryan, Schmidt, & Whitelock etc, are. It's still not too late to get rid of him (Cane's already a goner imo).
So should Richie never have captained again after the quarter final in 2007, Brendan? And who was running the undermanned cutter in that splendid last 10 minutes at Ellis Park after Sam Cane had been subbed?
Taine Randal , was a complete scape goat for Coach and Team . No-one one wanted the Skippers position. He was another quality player ruined by politics in the AB environment. Maybe the ABs just are not good enough for 80 mins.
Not sure we really need commentary teams weighting in on captaincy. NZ needs to learn to live with ABs dominance being part of our past. And that's ok. Life goes on. We will win again, just not all the time.
Spot on Damian.
The 1999 semi-final against France was at Twickenham, not Cardiff
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Agree with BT and surprised others don't see that the fundamental issue here is leadership and has been for a while. As always, that starts at the top i.e. the NZRU board and their appointment of Robinson and his/theirs of Foster resulting in the wrong and lack of true leaders on the field. That is one area where AB's always excelled as of course was the closing stages of matches. Not today, by a long stretch. Not sure who the new captain should be esp < a year from the next RWC but agree Whitelock and Cane not the answers. Great tight forward long in tooth and 7 that shouldn't be on the field are simply not right to lead, as they have proven, and not just on the Northern tour. The whole Crusaders push back by some is an irrelevant red herring.
So fresh on the field TJ Perenara decides to box kick possession away, back to the English - on the orders of his Hurricanes' team mate Ardie Savea - where the English then continue their monentum, getting back into the game by a scoring a resulting try - and it's the (Crusaders' & All Blacks') captain, Sam Whitelock's fault?
Come on Brendon, your Hurricanes bias is too simple to consider.
Savea is the issue here for calling for the TJ kick.. its in line with his poor thinking on foster allegedly being a great coach and cold, wet miserable Wellington being the supposed best city in New Zealand.. he has many issues that lad....
Lot of similar comments about Richie McCaw after that horrible WC loss. The pain from that built the ABs team that were untouchable for so long.
As long as Whitelock learns from this and improves his leadership in these situations, he can be a captain to lead the ABs to lift the cup
Telfer has been past it for years. Sam Cain my god is he related, Canterbury seems to do Allright the problem with this team is the coach and selections. Clark can't handle it, Reiko can't read it and perenara is past it, this coach hasn't developed a back line in 4 years look what he's doing to our best first five. It's time the sport media started keeping up.
Stay asleep champ! Saying Reiko is not a centre is akin to saying Razor cant coach. Reiko's the best 13 on the planet.
You can tell your a crusader fan moungas in ability to find touch when he needs to has got nothing to do with the coaching it’s a mental thing. Bauden makes a lot of bad calls under pressure as well. I don’t think cane would have made a difference either he’s lucky to be in the team in the first place. Maybe time to give someone else a run as captain I don’t think age should matter you either got the ability to lead or you don’t it’s all good and well being the quiet follow me lead by example type of guy but when things aren’t going to plan you need a voice someone to say this isn’t working we need to change things and this is what we’re going to do