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'He should never captain the All Blacks again': NZ leadership guilty in numerous late collapses

Sam Whitelock, Ardie Savea and Sam Cane approach a line-out for the All Blacks. Photo by Dave Rowland/Getty Images

The final nine minutes of the All Blacks vs England match have motivated endless criticism from Kiwi pundits. Broadcaster Brendan Telfer has labelled the closing minutes of the All Blacks’ season the worst in decades and called for Sam Whitelock to never captain the side again.

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Telfer has three decades of sports broadcasting experience and leaned on every moment of it to blast the All Blacks, calling out their mental fortitude and leadership as the key issues in an underperforming season which featured several historic losses.

The one positive note Telfer agreed on from the performance was that it would remind the Kiwi faithful that all is not well despite the run of more positive results to end the season.

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Telfer spoke to Martin Devlin on The Platform:

“After a lot of thought and consideration,” Telfer started. “And casting my mind back over the last god knows how many decades, I’ve come to the conclusion the last nine minutes of that match on Sunday morning was the worst nine minutes of rugby the All Blacks have played since 1999 in the meltdown against France in that semi-final down in Cardiff.”

That match saw the All Blacks winning 26-13  with just over 20 minutes to play, but once the 70th minute rolled around, France had scored 26 unanswered points and went on to win 43-31.

However, the final minutes of the Twickenham Test isn’t the only example of the All Blacks dropping off and letting their opposition back in the game this season.

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“We’ve seen it a few times this year, haven’t we?” Telfer continued. “They were up by 18 points against Australia, they conceded 23 unanswered points against Scotland, they allowed the Japanese back into that match a few weeks ago in Tokyo and against South Africa, so it’s not a physical issue with this All Blacks side… it’s the mental capacity.”

The All Blacks’ leadership was then called into question, as the composure of the team crumbled when Beauden Barrett was sent off and England’s attack picked up the intensity.

“Well he should never captain the All Blacks again, I’m sorry. All due respect to Sam Whitelock, great player that he’s been for the All Blacks, fantastic lineout jumper, fantastic player around the field but where was he in those last nine minutes?

“It brings up an interesting question doesn’t it – would they have played out a different nine minutes of rugby if Sam Cane had been on the field?”

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While Cane was present and captain for the Bledisloe Test in Melbourne where the Wallabies launched an epic comeback only to concede a famous timewasting call and have the All Blacks win at the death, the flanker has been absent on the shaky Northern Tour which made up the majority of Telfer’s aforementioned list of 60-70 minute All Black performances in 2022.

The Debate over Cane’s influence as captain was quickly undermined by a more prevalent debate over whether Cane was deserving of a starting role on the team, with Dalton Papali’i impressing throughout the tour.

The in-form Ardie Savea was the next name to feature in the captaincy debate but reports that it was Savea who called for TJ Perenara to box kick late in the Test called into question the dominant No 8’s decision-making.

That decision to kick was seen by Telfer as symbolic of the lack of proper leadership within the All Blacks’ camp.

“I mean I’m still scratching my head and trying to answer this question, why on earth did TJ Perenara put that crazy kick into no man’s land? 78 minutes gone on the clock, you’re up by seven points, it’s on halfway – yeah, I understand what people are saying, they didn’t want to give away a penalty, this guy (the referee) was pinging every maul and every ruck and England (could) get a penalty, kick it down into their 22 and dial up one of their rollover tries from a rolling maul.

“Okay, but if he’s going to kick, why didn’t he kick it deep? So they’re saying to the Englishman ‘you’ve got 100 meters, you’ve got to run some way or another to win this match.’

“(Instead) he gives them a little kick in the middle of between 22 and halfway, (England) runs into open territory, not a black jersey in sight, 30 seconds later they score. It’s the mental decisions they’re making.”

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Jo 718 days ago

"Telfer has three decades of sports broadcasting experience"

but zero experience playing. His experience of 'pressure' is from an arm-chair.

To blame Whitelock, Foster or whoever from the playing/coaching group and not laud how good England were in maximising the numerical advantage is proof these guys should just remain hacks.

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Michael 719 days ago

What a dumb and silly suggestion - how do you explain the Crusaders success???? Eh !

Who gave the command for Perinara to boot for touch....Ardie apparently....duh....

When you are a back short, all the opposition need to do is flick it wide, take the advantage down the sideline, feed it to your forwards (a good pack) and push over.....or same but kick it out, line-out 5 meters, and pushover.

Guarantee if BB hadn't stuffed up the tackle etc.,might have been 5 points, maybe 7, but that would have been it.

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Dahvida 720 days ago

I totally with the opening remarks of broadcaster Brendan Telfer. The mental fortitude and leadership issues have not been resolved, and continue to dog this current crop of players in our national team. Having been selected as the cream of our current top of players for their special talents does not align with required mental preparation and the ability to sustain the level of controlled aggression in each players mind for the entire 80 minutes or more of a game if required. Moreover, the lack of leadership is woefully apparent. Games are won or lost even before players arrive at the stadium changing rooms. The All Blacks have lost their mojo. We need a captain who will lead from the front for the entire game, see or anticipate all the plays of the opposition in real time and prepare his leadership team to accommodate any changes in play from the opposition. The level of sustained aggression has gone begging. As an expat Kiwi of Polynesian extraction living abroad, l have observed the players of Polynesian descent are lacking the ability to sustain the mental level of aggression required on the field. This must change. The hard won reputation of the All Black is already in grave danger of being perceived by other teams across the globe as having descended to the pit of mediocrity.

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Mark 720 days ago

Yes, it was a troubling last 10 or so minutes, that quite frankly was piss poor play from the AB’s.
I thought I was watching a different team, making decisions that we expect from other teams ,not us.
This mental breakdown has to be addressed, recognised and dealt with in a hurry.. we can’t take this attitude to France next year Or we’ll be blown away .

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Pecos 720 days ago

Bloody hell, Foster & his sidekick Cane have dumbed down the ABs since 2020 & all of a sudden it's all the replacement skipper's fault? This downward spiral of rugby IQ & mental acuity is a pattern over three years not an EOYT anomaly. Hard for a last minute fill in skipper (who joined the tour late) to slot into an already dysfunctional system & make a meaningful impact. Foster will continue to coach talent down to his level & hamstring the ABs no matter how excellent Ryan, Schmidt, & Whitelock etc, are. It's still not too late to get rid of him (Cane's already a goner imo).

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Greg 724 days ago

So should Richie never have captained again after the quarter final in 2007, Brendan? And who was running the undermanned cutter in that splendid last 10 minutes at Ellis Park after Sam Cane had been subbed?

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Terence 725 days ago

Taine Randal , was a complete scape goat for Coach and Team . No-one one wanted the Skippers position. He was another quality player ruined by politics in the AB environment. Maybe the ABs just are not good enough for 80 mins.

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Damian 725 days ago

Not sure we really need commentary teams weighting in on captaincy. NZ needs to learn to live with ABs dominance being part of our past. And that's ok. Life goes on. We will win again, just not all the time.

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Arie 725 days ago

The 1999 semi-final against France was at Twickenham, not Cardiff

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Shane 726 days ago

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JW 2 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Where? I remember saying "unders"? The LNR was formed by the FFR, if I said that in a way that meant the 'pro' side of the game didn't have an equal representation/say as the 'amateur' side (FFR remit) that was not my intent.


But also, as it is the governing body, it also has more responsibility. As long as WR looks at FFR as the running body for rugby in France, that 'power' will remain. If the LNR refuses to govern their clubs use of players to enable a request by FFR (from WR) to ensure it's players are able to compete in International rugby takes place they will simply remove their participation. If the players complain to the France's body, either of their health and safety concerns (through playing too many 'minutes' etc) or that they are not allowed to be part in matches of national interest, my understanding is action can be taken against the LNR like it could be any other body/business. I see where you're coming from now re EPCR and the shake up they gave it, yes, that wasn't meant to be a separate statement to say that FFR can threaten them with EPCR expulsion by itself, simply that it would be a strong repercussion for those teams to be removed (no one would want them after the above).


You keep bringing up these other things I cannot understand why. Again, do you think if the LNR were not acting responsibly they would be able to get away with whatever they want (the attitude of these posters saying "they pay the players")? You may deem what theyre doing currently as being irresponsible but most do not. Countries like New Zealand have not even complained about it because they've never had it different, never got things like windfall TV contracts from France, so they can't complain because theyre not missing out on anything. Sure, if the French kept doing things like withholding million dollar game payments, or causing millions of dollars of devaluation in rights, they these things I'm outlining would be taking place. That's not the case currently however, no one here really cares what the French do. It's upto them to sort themselves out if they're not happy. Now, that said, if they did make it obvious to World Rugby that they were never going to send the French side away (like they possibly did stating their intent to exclude 20 targeted players) in July, well then they would simply be given XV fixtures against tier 2 sides during that window and the FFR would need to do things like the 50/50 revenue split to get big teams visiting in Nov.

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