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'He wants to be successful with everything he does' - Leyds on O'Gara mentality

BORDEAUX, FRANCE - Ronan O'Gara, Head Coach of La Rochelle talks with Dillyn Leyds prior the Heineken Cup Champions Cup semi final match between La Rochelle and Exeter Chiefs at Stade Matmut Atlantique on April 30, 2023 in Bordeaux, France. (Photo by Lionel Hahn/Getty Images)

La Rochelle winger Dillyn Leyds has opened up on what has given the back-to-back European champions the edge in the last few seasons, citing man management as a crucially important factor.

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Leyds is back in Cape Town as the French team prepare to take on his former side, the Stormers, on Saturday.

Speaking to Behind the Ruck on what he puts the team’s success down to, Leyds spoke fondly of the former Ireland legend.

“A lot of credit has to go to Ronan O’Gara. When you speak about Ronan O’Gara the rugby player, you automatically think about his ambition, his desire, his want to win. He wants to be successful with everything he does.

“A training session, if he wants it to be that way, it has to go that way. [He’s] very focussed on detail. Then, you get the quality of players that we have, and when you get them to start believing in your process and the way you want things to work, and they buy into it, I think that’s a great recipe for success.

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“We also have a very strong leadership group that is very hard on players in the group, but in a way that you take it because they’re being honest with you. ‘I don’t think your standards at training are good enough, you need to tidy it up’.

“With all of our coaches, the way they make you believe that there is no one better than you in the world. They have this ambition… When ROG came in it was just about, ‘Why do we want to be satisfied with just being here, when we know we’ve got the ability and capability to push on and be more?’.

“And that changed the club, it changed the mindset of the people working at the club. Not just coaches but backroom staff, in the office, it changed the mindset of the players. And I think that’s got a helluva lot to do with why over recent years, we’ve been successful.”

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The former Springbok, capped 10 times, says that a focus on family is a huge part of what ROG brought to the club.

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“ROG is big on family. Even at the start of the year we had a big welcoming, we had some new players, everyone had been away for a couple of weeks after the holidays, so at the start of the year he was the first one to say ‘Listen, we’re going to have a family day. Bring your kids, bring your wives, everyone’ and he spoke and said ‘Listen, this is how we do things at La Rochelle. This is what the club is about: You guys, the partners, as much as the players are the ones on the field, but you are the ones supporting them and making sure that whether they come home in a bad mood after a loss or whether they are in great spirits after a win, you are the ones seeing it all away from the field’.

“He knows how tough life can be when you’re in France, away from home, for us as foreigners. He knows when it’s time to say ‘look, we’re not going to play you this week, we don’t need you. Come to training on Monday and Tuesday but for the rest of the week, go away, if you want to go away with your wife, go with your kids Do whatever you want’.

“That really helps a lot, especially in the Top 14 when the season is so long and mentally draining, so you just need that time away when you can literally just not think about rugby, and be with your family.”

Following defeat to Leinster in round one, Leyds says that the team are very aware of how much trouble they will be in if they fail to beat the Stormers.

“It’s an exciting time for a lot of the boys to come to Cape Town for the first time, but lets not forget that we’re here to do a job too. If we go 0-2 then we make things pretty hard for ourselves. So this game is really important.

“We’re playing for our lives this weekend. As defending champs, we want to go out and show that last week was just a little bump in the road.

“A lot of the guys are excited about the fact that we’re going to be playing in dry weather too. Dry ball, give the ball some air, it’s going to be good.”

While the visitors come with a wealth of experience including the likes of France stars Jonathan Danty and Uini Atonio, the Stormers will have their Springboks back, with Damian Willemse and Manie Libbok in action, as well as Deon Fourie captaining the side from the flank.

The game kicks of at DHL Stadium in Cape Town at 14:00 local on Saturday 16 December.

Stormers:

15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Ben Loader, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Deon Fourie (captain), 5 Ruben van Heerden, 4 Adre Smith, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Joseph Dweba, 1 Ali Vermaak.

Replacements: 16 Andre-Hugo Venter, 17 Sti Sithole, 18 Brok Harris, 19 Connor Evans, 20 Ben-Jason Dixon, 21 Marcel Theunissen, 22 Paul de Wet, 23 Courtnall Skosan.

La Rochelle:

15 Brice Dulin, 14 Dillyn Leyds, 13 Ulupano Seuteni, 12 Jonathan Danty, 11 Jules Favre, 10 Antoine Hastoy, 9 Tawerra Kerr-barlow, 8 Yoan Tanga, 7 Levani Botia, 6 Paul Boudehent, 5 Will Skelton, 4 Thomas Lavault, 3 Uini Atonio, 2 Pierre Bourgarit (Cap), 1 Reda Wardi

Replacements: 16 Sacha Idoumi, 17 Joel Sclavi, 18 Georges-henri Colombe Reazel, 19 Ultan Dillane, 20 Rémi Picquette, 21 Judicaël Cancoriet, 22 Teddy Iribaren, 23 Hugo Reus.

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Mzilikazi 25 minutes ago
Does the next Wallabies coach have to be an Australian?

Great read on a fascinating topic, Nick. Thanks as always.


My gut feel is that Joe Schmidt won't carry on through to the next RWC. He is at the stage, and age, in his life , that a further two years in a very high pressure coaching job would not be a good thing for either himself or his family. The fact that he remains based in Taupo seems a significant pointer, I would have thought. I believe he has a round trip of 12 hrs driving just to get on a plane to Australia.


Amongst the many good things Joe Schmidt has achieved to this point is that the WB's are now a more enticing prospect to coach going forward.


Tbh, the only Australian coach I would see stepping up and developing the WB's further would be Les Kiss. He has far more in his CV than any other Australian. He now has 23 years of coaching Union,starting with a defence role with the Boks, then back to Australia with the Waratahs. Overseas again for nine years in Ireland, which included 5 years as defence coach with the national team, during which he was interim head coach for two games, both wins. His last years in Ireland were with Ulster, even then a team beginning a decline. So that spell was his least successful. Finally the spell with London Irish, where I felt Kiss was doing very well, till the club collapsed financially.


Of the other Australian options, Dan McKellar has a lot to prove post the year with Leicester. Stephen Larkham has not, in my view, yet shown outstanding qualities as a coach. Nether man has anything close to Kiss's experience. Some may see this as being harsh on both men, ignoring good work they have done. But is how I see it.


Looking outside Australia, I would see Vern Cotter as a strong possibility, if interested. His time with Scotland was outstanding. Ronan O'Gara, I would think, might well be another possibility, though he has no international experience. Jake White ? Maybe .

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