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How the heights and weights of hookers compare across the Premiership, Top 14 and PRO14

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The top three leagues in Europe each have certain stereotypes regarding the size of their players that they stick to, particularly in the pack. So when comparing the measurements of hookers across Europe to get a gauge of the average weight and height, cultural norms will shine through. But there is still a model of what a No2 should look like.

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France’s Top 14 – and indeed the French national team – traditionally field the largest forwards, with the Gallagher Premiership just behind, and the Guinness PRO14 being slightly more varied, partly due to the plurality of rugby cultures that make up that five-nation league.

So when comparing the measurements of hookers across Europe to get a gauge of the average weight and height, cultural norms will shine through. But there is still a model of what a No2 should look like. 

Taking each player’s figures from their club’s website, the first weekend of January is one of the best game weeks of the entire season to compare players. This was a  sufficient enough gap after the World Cup to play first-choice players and before the Six Nations and European fixtures. 

While it may seem like a while ago, little rugby has been played since then due to the Covid-19 pandemic. What is worth noting is that the favoured hookers for England, France, Ireland, Wales and Italy during the Six Nations – and many of the second-choice players – were all starting this particular January weekend, which suggests these are the stats demanded of Test players as well as the level below. 

In contrast to many positions on the field, No2 seems to be defined by the lack of variety when it comes to the players’ physical statistics. 

The height of hookers is dictated by the size of the props either side of them. They will often be smaller than the props and very seldom taller. Therefore it isn’t too surprising that the average height of hookers across the three leagues was only separated by two centimetres as a player too tall or short would create an unbalanced front row. 

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The PRO14 had the tallest players at 1.83m (6ft 0ins) compared to the Premiership’s 1.82m (6ft 0ins) and the Top 14’s 1.81m (5ft 11ins). While there is a slight difference between each league, 65 per cent of the players in the French league and the PRO14 were between 1.8m and 1.85m compared to 50 per cent in England. The reason why the average is slightly higher in the PRO14 is that 21 per cent of players were over 1.85m compared to only 14 across the Channel. 

With that in mind, Montpellier’s Bismarck du Plessis, at 1.89m (6ft 2ins), was the tallest hooker across the three leagues on this particular weekend. Although he is perhaps on the extreme end of what is a permissible height for a hooker, he has played in some sizeable front rows throughout his career for South Africa and now Montpellier which could accommodate taller hookers. 

But these average heights show that there is a rough range of heights that a hooker has to fit in, simply in order to be most efficient. 

What is stranger is that there is even less diversity in terms of weight in the three leagues. The players in both the Premiership and the PRO14 averaged 106kgs (16st 10lbs), while those in France were only a kilogram heavier. 

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France’s predilection to field heavier forwards is no secret, but the fact that it is by such a fine margin is bizarre, particularly as hooker is a position that doesn’t automatically necessitate what weight a player should be. 

As it happens, excluding the anomalous Paul Ngauamo, who weighs 121kgs (19st), the average weight across all three leagues was the same. The Tongan hooker weighed significantly more than any other player in Europe on this weekend. Although he may not appear that weighty, his stats were from Agen’s website and the RWC website actually had him a kilogram heavier. 

The Top 14 had 21 per cent of their players over 110kgs and 14 per cent under 100kgs, while the PRO14 had 29 per cent over and zero under. Meanwhile, the Premiership had zero players over 110kgs and only one player (eight per cent) under 100kgs. 

This suggests that there is a template of an ideal hooker that many of the clubs in England – and to a lesser extent the PRO14 – adhere to, while there is more variety in France. However, compared to some other positions, the range is fairly parochial.

So the most defining thing about the average weight and height of hookers across Europe is that there isn’t a great cultural divide. In this position, a greater comparison would be made when looking across eras, as this is one of the few positions where the average weight may have actually reduced. 

In recent years, the premier No2s in the world have been characterised by qualities that would not have been seen in previous eras. The All BlacksDane Coles has made a name for himself in the wider channels of the field, while the Springboks’ Malcolm Marx has the workrate and the potency at the breakdown of a flanker. 

While neither of these players would be deemed small, their output in the loose is greater than those of previous eras. Indeed, one of the form hookers in England this season and someone quite stylistically similar to Coles, Bristol Bears’ Harry Thacker, was the lightest and shortest player in Europe on this particular game week. 

It’s therefore not worth looking at each league individually and drawing any conclusions or stereotypes from them, as the demands and requirements for this position seem to be universal.

GALLAGHER PREMIERSHIP Average: 1.82m (6ft 0ins)/106kgs (16st 10lbs)

Bath Tom Dunn: 1.86m (6ft 1ins)/106kgs (16st 10lbs)

Bristol Harry Thacker: 1.73m (5ft 8ins)/93kgs (14st 9lbs)

Exeter Luke Cowan-Dickie: 1.85m (6ft 1ins)/109kgs (17st 3lbs) 

Gloucester  Franco Marais: 1.85m (6ft 1ins)/108kgs (17st)

Harlequins Elia Elia: 1.83m (6ft 0ins)/110kgs (17st 5lbs)

Leicester Tom Youngs: 1.75m (5ft 9ins)/104kgs (16st 5lbs)

London Irish  Saia Fainga’a: 1.87m (6ft 2ins)/108kgs (17st)

Northampton  Mike Haywood: 1.8m (5ft 11ins)/105kgs (16st 8lbs)

Sale Akker van der Merwe: 1.78m (5ft 10ins)/110kgs (17st 5lbs)

Saracens Jamie George: 1.83m (6ft 0ins)/109kgs (17st 2lbs) 

Wasps Tommy Taylor: 1.83m (6ft 0ins)/104kgs (16st 5lbs)

Worcester Matt Moulds: 1.88m (6ft 2ins)/106kgs (16st 10lbs)

GUINNESS PRO14 Average: 1.83m (6ft 0ins)/106kgs (16st 10lbs)

Benetton Epalahame Faiva: 1.83m (6ft 0ins)/102kgs (16st 1lb) 

Cardiff Liam Belcher: 1.78m (5ft 10ins)/104kgs (16st 5lbs)

Cheetahs Wilmar Arnoldi: 1.81m (5ft 11ins)/108kgs (17st) 

Connacht Shane Delahunt: 1.88m (6ft 2ins)/112kgs (17st 8lbs) 

Dragons Elliot Dee: 1.86m (6ft 1ft ft )/106kgs (16st 10lbs)

Edinburgh Mike Willemse: 1.85m (6ft 1ins)/104kgs (16st 5lbs)

Glasgow George Turner: 1.81m (5ft 11ins)/105kgs (16st 8lbs)

Leinster Sean Cronin: 1.78m (5ft 10ins)/103kgs (16st 3lbs)

Munster Niall Scannell: 1.85m (6ft 1ins)/111kgs (17st 7lbs)

Ospreys Sam Parry: 1.86m (6ft 1ins)/114kgs (17st 13lbs) 

Scarlets Ken Owens: 1.85m (6ft 1ins)/112kgs (17st 8lbs)

Southern Kings Jacques du Toit: 1.84m (6ft 0ins)/103kgs (16st 3lbs)

Ulster Rob Herring: 1.85m (6ft 1ins)/102kgs (16st 1lb) 

Zebre Luca Bigi: 1.82m (6ft 0ins)/104kgs (16st 5lbs)

TOP 14 Average: 1.81m (5ft 11ins)/107kgs (16st 12lbs) – 106kg excluding Ngauamo

Agen Paul Ngauamo: 1.85m (6ft 1ins)/121kgs  (19st)

Bayonne Maxime Lamothe: 1.81m (5ft 11ins)/108kgs (17st)

Bordeaux Adrien Pelissie: 1.8m (5ft 11ins)/110kgs (17st 5lbs) 

Brive Peniami Narisia: 1.87m (6ft 2ins)/104kgs (16st 5lbs)

Castres Jody Jenneker: 1.85 (6ft 1ins)/108kgs (17st)

Clermont John Ulugia: 1.8m (5ft 11ins)/115kgs (18st 1lb) 

La Rochelle Facundo Bosch: 1.8m (5ft 11ins)/100kgs (15st 11lbs)

Lyon Jeremie Maurouard: 1.81m (5ft 11ins)/96kgs (15st 2lbs) 

Montpellier Bismarck du Plessis: 1.89m (6ft 2ins)/115kgs (18st 1lb)

Pau Lucas Rey: 1.75m (5ft 9ins)/98kgs (15st 6lbs)

Racing 92 Camille Chat: 1.78m (5ft 10ins)/101kgs (16st)

Stade Francais Silatolu Latu: 1.78m (5ft 10ins)/110kgs (17st 5lbs)

Toulon Anthony Etrillard: 1.8m (5ft 11ins)/108kgs (17st) 

Toulouse Julien Marchand: 1.81m (5ft 11ins)/108kgs (17st)

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Why is Joe Schmidt the best option for Australia? (LONG READ)


An essay for @OJohn with love from South Africa.


OJohn keeps banging on about kiwis and Saffers and everyone else seeking to undermine and bring down Australian rugby… Blah, Blah, Blah. It’s boring and not worth responding too 99 days out of 100.


He misses the point completely that Australians either are or are not the masters of their own destiny. So to blame anyone else but themselves for what the state of Australian rugby is in - is hypocritical.


But recently, Australia has shown signs of life. Personally, I always believed they would be back at some point. At the beginning of this year I predicted that the wallabies would bounce back this year. I predicted that they would overtake England in the world rankings. I am predicting that they could finish second in the RC, could win the Lions series and could make it to a RWC final at home.


I tend to get ahead of myself when I’m excited... Ask my wife. But forgive me for getting excited about the Wallabies looking good! Is it so bad?


Like OJohn, I believe that Australia’s lands abound with natures gifts, including athletic specimens across any sporting code the Aussies compete in. It’s one of the reasons most of us don’t like Aussies. They win sh1t. Regularly. And look smug when they do...


But back to OJohn. And his banging on about the need for Australia to have an Australian coach. Here are a few highlights of his argument:


Several times I've given a list of half a dozen Australian coaches who would be more Australian than Schmidt and just as successful.

Tell me which Australian coaches would be acceptable to coach the All Blacks ......?

Because South Africans and Kiwis and Welshmen and Scotsman are all s.... scared that if an immensely talented and athletic team like Australia is ever able to harness nationalistic Australian passion with an Australian coach, you'll all be s.c.r.e.w.e.d.


And then finally – the list of 6 🥴:


Ewen McKenzie, Less Kiss, Stephen Larkham, Jim McKay, David Nucifora, Scott Wisenthal, Ben Mowen, Rod Kafer, Mick Byrne, John Manetti, Jason Gilmore, Dan McKellar.

Plus, a special request:


Keep in mind Rod MacQueen never won a Super Rugby title before he was appointed Wallaby coach but he ended up the greatest rugby coach the world has ever seen. Better than Erasmus even. Who is probably the next best.

Right. I don’t care about the tinfoil hat theories. I want to assess OJohn’s list and determine whether any of them fit the mold of a Rod Macqueen.

 

Like Rod Macqueen the following world cup winning coaches never won a Super Rugby Title:


·       David Kirk, 1987 (17 appearances for New Zealand)

·       Kitch Kristie, 1995

·       Rod Macqueen, 1999

·       Clive Woodward, 2003 (21 Appearance for England)

·       Jake White, 2007 (School Teacher)

·       Graham Henry, 2011 (School Teacher)

·       Steve Hansen, 2015 (Policeman)

·       Rassie Erasmus, 2019 (36 Appearances for South Africa)

·       Jacques Nienaber, 2023 (Physiotherapist).


I couldn't find out what Rod or Kitch did other than coach.


The only coach who has won a Super title and a World Cup?

·       Bob Dwyer, 1991 (A Tahs man wouldn’t you know!)


In fact coaches that have won super rugby titles have not won world cups. Robbie Deans. Heyneke Meyer to name just two.


I know I’m being childish, but I needed to bring this list in somehow because it’s quite obvious that whatever these coaches did before they became international level coaches is largely immaterial. Or is it?


Interestingly Ewan McKenzie (A Tah Man!) has won a Super title. And despite being a Tah Man made it into OJohn’s list. That’s two strikes for Ewan Mckenzie based on OJohn’s criteria so far. Not to mention his 50% win rate as head coach of the Wallabies between 2013 and 2014 (and the laundry list of off the field fcuk ups that swirled around the team at the time).


So Ewan is out.


I find it interesting that, as we speak, eight out of the ten top ranked men’s teams are coached by former international players:

1.      South Africa, Rassie Erasmus (36 appearances for South Africa)

2.      Ireland, Andy Farrell (8 appearances for England)

3.      New Zealand, Scott Robertson (23 appearances for New Zealan)

4.      France, Fabien Galthie (64 appearances for France)

5.      Argentina, Felipe Contemponi (87 appearances for Argentina)

6.      Scotland, Gregor Townsend (82 appearances for Scotland)

7.      England, Steve Borthwick (57 appearances for England)

8.      Australia, Joe Schmidt (School Teacher)

9.      Fiji, Michael Byrne (Aussie Rules Player)

10.  Italy, Gonzalo Quesada (38 appearances for Argentina).


It would appear as though we have entered an era where successful international coaches, largely, have played rugby at international level in the professional era. Or are ex school teachers. Much like Jake White and Graham Henry! Or a policeman.

 

Back to OJohn’s List. That leaves us with:


·       Less Kiss, (I like the look of)

·       Stephen Larkham, (I like the look of)

·       Jim McKay, (Very little to write home about)

·       David Nucifora, (Too old)

·       Scott Wisenthal, (I literally can’t find anything on him on the Google).

·       Ben Mowen, (Too young, no coaching experience)

·       Rod Kafer, (No coaching experience)

·       Mick Byrne, (He’s coaching the Fijians, Aussie rules!)

·       John Manetti, (Can’t find him on the google)

·       Jason Gilmore, (Seems to be working through the ranks, coaching Wallabies A)

·       Dan McKellar, (Not much to write home about, but could be an option).


Applying some logic, I would say the following are viable options based on age, experience in coaching AND the fact that they have played rugby for Australia in the professional era:

·       Less Kiss, (I like the look of)

·       Stephen Larkham, (I like the look of)

·       Jason Gilmore, (Seems to be working through the ranks, coaching Wallabies A)


After having done all this research, I think it’s fair to say that none of these three have the same pedigree as Joe Schmidt, the teacher. Who took a sh1tty Ireland team to no.1. Won a few 6 Nations and helped get the All Blacks to a world cup final in 2023.


Joe’s the best option for now. But if Kiss, Larkham and Gilmore are the business for the future for Australia get them in now as assistants to Joe and stop moaning!!


Errors and Ommissions Excepted. Mispelling of names is OJohn's fault.

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