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'I don't like the comparison' Israel Folau discusses similarities to Joseph Sua'ali'i

Joseph-Aukuso Sua’ali’i

Former Wallaby Israel Folau has been doing the podcast rounds in recent weeks, most recently appearing on the Ebbs and Flows podcast.

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The 35-year-old was asked about Rugby League star Joseph Sua’ali’i, who will join Rugby Australia at the conclusion of the NRL season.

Discussing his relationship with the 21-year-old, the former Waratah explained that the pair first met before his rise to fame as one of the best outside backs in the NRL.

“I met Joseph when he was still in school, and he was the nicest kid.” Folau said, “I talked to him every now and then here and here now dropping a text or message, and that man, he’s a talent bro, a freak.”

Given the similarities in the two players’ physical stature and style of play, Sua’ali’i has already garnered comparisons to Folau at the time of his transition to the XV-a-side code. Tempering expectations, Folau cautioned against placing too much pressure on the 21-year-old who last played rugby union during his school days.

“I see a lot of people comparing him to me; I don’t like the comparison from an individual point of view, for his sake, because I think he’s talented, but I just don’t like when people compare because he’s quite young and I don’t like people putting pressure on him.

“Don’t get me wrong; I can see why, but personally, I want this guy to succeed, and he’s done a lot already in the game, and I was quite happy when I obviously saw him sign and go over and play rugby.

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“He’s got a rugby background, obviously, and that helps a lot too.”

Offering advice to the youngster ahead of his highly anticipated switch, Folau feels that he should block the ever-increasing external noise about what he could achieve in the sport.

“One piece of advice I’d give to him is just don’t put any pressure on yourself and forget about what the media are saying about you.

“Just go out there and play freely, just back yourself and just play the game freely, the way you know how to play the game.”

Shifting his focus to the much discussed topic of Sua’ali’i’s five million Australian dollar contract, the former fullback said he could see both sides of the debate. On one hand, he stressed that the player could not be blamed for accepting the deal whilst also understanding that long term Wallabies could be put out by the expenditure on an unproven commodity.

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“Every player that’s playing the game wants the biggest and best contract you can get personally.

“If they were in his position, they would sign the contract as well.

“But I understand from their point of view that they’ve been in the game, they’ve been serving the game a lot longer than he was, and he’s just coming in and signing this big deal. But that’s on Rugby Australia, that’s on the board, that’s on those guys that are deciding to make these decisions.”

Concluding the Sua’ali’i discussion, the former code hopper was asked about which position he felt the Roosters winger’s skillset would be best suited to.

“I think he could play fullback because early on when I first made the switchover, I never kicked either. So that’s something, that’s a skill set.

‘Playing the game in school will help his transition, and I think he could probably play wing and even 13. He’s quite a big body, he’s athletic, he’s quick, so hopefully he can get some ball at centre too.”

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GrahamVF 34 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 7 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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