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‘I genuinely believe…’: Pat Lam’s bold claim after another Bristol win

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Pat Lam, the Bristol Bears director of rugby looks on prior to the Gallagher Premiership Rugby match between Bristol Bears and Northampton Saints at Ashton Gate on October 25, 2024 in Bristol, England. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Bristol boss Pat Lam believes his Gallagher Premiership leaders should be unbeaten after the first block of six league games.

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Lam’s team moved back to the Premiership summit with a 31-23 bonus-point victory over champions Northampton at Ashton Gate.

It left Bristol with 24 points from a possible 30, but it would have been even better had they not suffered agonising late defeats in high-scoring encounters against Saracens and Gloucester.

“We should be undefeated. We lost in the 82nd minute last week (to Saracens), and we had a late dropped ball against Gloucester, so we knew we just had to finish things off,” Lam said.

“Everybody said we were going to be eighth, ninth or 10th this season, and we are obviously not.

“We have started the six rounds really well. I genuinely believe we should be sitting here on 30 points. It is a third of the competition done.”

Centre Kalaveti Ravouvou scored two tries to underpin a hard-earned win, with the west country club not at their free-flowing best, but they still had enough in the tank to triumph.

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A fourth win from six league starts was secured after Bristol trailed by 15 points midway through the first half.

Ravouvou’s double on his return from injury kept Bristol on course for maximum points, and there were also touchdowns for wing Gabriel Ibitoye and lock Joe Batley.

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Fly-half AJ MacGinty kicked all four conversions and landed a penalty as Bristol ended a run of Premiership games before the autumn Tests in fine shape.

Lam added: “After 23 minutes, we had conceded nine turnovers, four penalties and 15 points – horrendous statistics.

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“It was a simple equation at half-time. If we wanted to win the game it was about being disciplined, not just in terms of penalties, but being accurate, and if we did that we would come home strong.”

Northampton, despite being without five players on England squad duty ahead of the autumn internationals, made life difficult and were rewarded with tries for full-back George Hendy, flanker Josh Kemeny and wing James Ramm, while debutant fly-half George Makepeace-Cubitt kicked two penalties and a conversion.

Saints rugby director Phil Dowson said: “There was tons of effort and intent.

“I thought first half we were really good value, but the second half we spent a lot of time in our own half under pressure and that pressure eventually told.

“We worked incredibly hard and gave ourselves opportunities, particularly in the first half, but second half we didn’t really put any pressure on them. I think we could have been further ahead at half-time.”

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'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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