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'I know this will send shivers down the spines of their fans'

A France supporter sporting comical headwear awaits kick-off in the Six Nations international rugby union match between Ireland and France at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin on February 11, 2023. (Photo by Paul ELLIS / AFP) (Photo by PAUL ELLIS/AFP via Getty Images)

Andy Nicol is adamant Scotland can cause a Rugby World Cup upset despite the hammer blow of losing Stuart Hogg, their talismanic full back, and having to face reigning champions South Africa and Ireland, ranked World No1, in the tournament’s Pool of Death.

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Nicol also has a chilling warning for hosts France and Irish fans who believe the Grand Slam champions will finally deliver at a World Cup saying: “I know this will send shivers down the spines of their fans, but given the draw, France and Ireland could conceivably go out in the quarter-finals. Nothing much has to go wrong for the two teams I see as favourites to not make the last four which would be remarkable.

“We know the draw won’t be made like this again and with Scotland ranked No5 now means their Pool has three teams in the top five. It makes no sense – nor does having five of the world’s top six teams in the same half of the draw.”

Scotland have lost eight in a row against Ireland and the last seven meetings with South Africa so, is it worth Scotland turning up? Not surprisingly, Nicol, a proud Scot, responds with an emphatic “yes” pointing to his country’s recent improvement and ability to not only run the world’s best close against France and New Zealand but register wins over England, Wales and Argentina.

However, Nicol is keenly aware of the void created by 31-year-old Hogg’s injury enforced recent retirement. Former captain Hogg won 100 caps to highlight the depth of rugby knowledge the Scots have to replace as they attempt to defy the odds and somehow make the knock out stages from Pool B which also includes a Tonga side boosted by recent arrivals Israel Folau, Charles Piutau and Malakai Fekitoa and minnows Romania.

Nicol told RugbyPass: “We have a tough group but we have a chance – although it is only a chance. You can say it’s a terrible draw for Scotland but I would argue it’s not a great one for Ireland and South Africa because they must be looking at their game with Scotland knowing we have the ability to beat someone at some point. There will be shocks at this World Cup.

“In the 2019 Cup in Japan there was real expectation that Scotland would get out of their pool I am not sure there is the same expectation this time. Scotland have a brutal draw and there is also Tonga with the new guys they have brought into their squad.

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“We have shown that in recent years and we should have beaten the All Blacks and Wallabies. In the Six Nations we beat England, Wales and Italy and in the Ireland and France games we competed but it showed we were just below that level. If Scotland are to get out of their pool they have to ensure they take those key chances that come along.

“Of course, losing Hoggy is a blow because of the experience he has and the confidence he brings to the whole group. In the early stages of his career, Hoggy was the only attacking player Scotland had and now we are multi-talented with lots of back line threats. It is a real shame he won’t be going out on the platform he deserves and in any conversation about the best Scotland players of all time he is right up there.

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Scotland’s Stuart Hogg and Finn Russell look dejected at full time during a Guinness Six Nations match between Scotland and Ireland at BT Murrayfield, on March 12, 2023, in Edinburgh,Scotland. (Photo by Ross Parker/SNS Group via Getty Images)

“The stats show Hoggy has it all: Heineken Cup, Premiership and Pro 12 winner, Lions tours, 100 caps and the Scotland try scoring record. More importantly for me, he was one of the few players Scotland had who, when he got the ball, their was a genuine sense of excitement.”

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Nicol, who won 23 caps for Scotland, is backing Blair Kinghorn to step out of the massive shadow cast by the incomparable Hogg. Finding the right role for Kinghorn has been a recurring debate in Scotland and a hat-trick of tries against Italy in the most recent Six Nations showed his attacking class.

He said: “If Hoggy was still there you would still have that debate about is Blair a 10 or a 15. Now that Hoggy has gone he is a 15 and I really like Blair and believe that given the chance he can nail the position down. I also like Ollie Smith and so it’s not a case of Blair getting the position for the next fives years and there is a real competition.

“Blair is so athletic and quick and I hear he is pulling up trees in training and his acceleration off the mark is something you need at full back. There was always a shadow cast by Hoggy and now it has gone, Blair can excel.”

Nicol’s own rugby career with Bath and Glasgow included being drafted onto the Lions bench for the deciding test of the 2001 tour to Australia while he was on holiday in the country to replace the injured Austin Healey. Looking back, Nicol admits he was mightily relieved not to take the pitch having enjoyed a lively R&R in Australia that did not include training for test rugby.

He explained: “If I had got on after five minutes I would have had to be subbed off – guaranteed. I wouldn’t have been able to last and that would have ended my career. As much as people knew the unusual circumstances, my credibility would have been shot.”

Nicol will be at the World Cup without his boots and is not available for any emergency call up by Scotland. Instead he is going to be joining fans on a series of eye catching Rugby World Cup Infinity Sports Travel cruises taking in destinations such as Ibiza and Corsica returning in time to be at the matches being staged in the South of France.

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“It is fantastic to bring rugby fans together:” added Nicol. ”We will all be on one ship and it will be a rugby extravaganza and a lot of fun. I am really looking forward to the tournament and France are going to deliver a really great World Cup. To be able to visit hubs like Marseille and see so many different teams will be special and I am so excited.

“The global game has improved and at this World Cup there is real quality in the fourth ranked teams in the pools like Tonga, Georgia and Samoa and the gap is narrowing.

“Given the draw England have got then they are on course for a semi-final place because its been remarkably kind to Steve Borthwick and his squad. If they get to that stage they can beat anyone on their day as they showed against New Zealand in 2019 and this is basically the rehashed squad from that tournament.

“I really hope at this World Cup we will be talking about the rugby not the impact of red and yellow cards and teams don’t opt to go into their shells and try not to lose.”

Join Andy on an exclusive Rugby World Cup cruise for Scotland v Tonga from £450pp with Infinity Sports Travel. www.infinitysportstravel.com

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PaPaRumple 527 days ago

Will be great if SA and Scotland get out the pool as the Irish fans are getting a bit much these days.

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Bob Marler 527 days ago

Upsets are to be expected. What is interesting to be seen is whether the NH teams can play two or more big games in a row this World Cup. Not a strength up to now.

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JW 5 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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