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'I made a mistake, and it only came out 3 years later in a big game' - Eddie Jones on the 'cracks of 2015'

England head coach Eddie Jones. (Photo by Michael Steele/Getty Images)

The psychological damage inflicted on England’s rugby players due to the botched 2015 Rugby World Cup came back to haunt Eddie Jones’ crop on the verge of the 2019 tournament.

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Jones was speaking with Conor O’Shea and cricket coach Justin Langer on the Eddie Jones Coaching Podcast. England folded in the second half against Scotland in the 2019 Guinness Six Nations with Scotland, conceding 38 unanswered points, having at one stage led 31 – 0. Just six months out from the Rugby World Cup in Japan, it would prove a turning point for Jones’ team.

“I made a mistake, and it only came out three years later in a big game, when the cracks of 2015 came out,” Jones told the Eddie Jones Coaching Podcast. “We had to get another south Australian sports psyche [psychologist] in. He came in and we had a series of meetings before the World Cup. As to the timing, it seemed bizarre but it was in fact a really good time to bring the team forward.”

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Jones says that mental stressers within team environments – like the trauma of the 2015 flop – must be addressed, especially in younger rugby players who have more on their shoulders than any generation before them.

“If I had my time again, I would have probably done it earlier.”

“You’ve always got to deal with those issues. More so today. I was talking to someone this morning. I think younger players now have a lot more pressure on them.

“There’s a lot more media pressure on them and they think they carry around a lot more anxiety, then we think they do.

“The older generation tend to think they’re alright but you need to address those issues.”

“Find people who are better than you and find people that the players relate to.

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“Will Carling is from the 1990s, but from one of the most successful England side. He brings some certain values, but maybe some of those values have been lost a bit and he’s helping the players learn some of those good values.

“Then we bring Haskell in. He’s great because he brings a lot of energy and he’s funny. Those guys all help, so always look for something a bit different.”

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JW 2 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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