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'I shouldn't have even been on the field': Quade Cooper on his four-year Wallabies hiatus

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Before Quade Cooper’s miraculous 2021 return to international rugby against the Springboks, the mercurial flyhalf spent years in the wilderness after last representing Australia in 2017.

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His journey from international stardom to amateur club rugby in 2018 came after a fallout with the Reds, a process that Cooper revealed defined his transformation into the player he is now.

Speaking in an all-ranging interview with Denan Kemp’s Bloke in a Bar podcast, Cooper revealed he ‘shouldn’t have even been on the field’ when he last donned Wallaby colours in the June international window in 2017.

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He explained his drive to play at the time was for the ‘wrong reasons’ as he chased the highs that came with adulation and flashy play without putting the necessary foundation in for success.

“The last game I played [for the Wallabies] was 2017, I think it was against Italy at Suncorp,” Cooper explained to Bloke in a Bar.

“I don’t even say I played that series because I played in the last minute. I got put on right at the end because guys got injured.

“I look back at me as a man, as a person, sitting on that bench and how I was as an athlete. I shouldn’t have even been on the field.

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“I wasn’t up to that standard when I look at physically how I was, mentally how I was. That’s probably for a space of four years.

“I played the game for the wrong reasons, I wanted the fame, I wanted to plan those moments. I didn’t do any of the work that was needed. I had the talent, but didn’t do the work.

“I went away to Japan, that was another hit to the ego because my team was second division in Japan. At the time I said to Khoder, my manager, “I’m not playing there bro”.

His manager convinced him to look at the situation differently, where he would make more money than his current situation in Australia if he could look past his pride at playing a lower level of Japanese rugby.

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“I let go of my ego. I go there and I love learning, teaching these guys over there, because all they want to do is learn,” he said

Whilst paying for the Kintetsu Liners in division two a surprise approach from the Wallabies assistant coach expressed a desire to have Cooper involved with the national side.

Defence coach Matt Taylor reached out to Cooper after watching all his games in Japan and a meeting was set-up with head coach Dave Rennie.

“I guess he was trying to work me out, my character,” Cooper said of his conversation with Rennie.

“I’m four months into a holiday, this is my life and lifestyle [sticking to a training regime].

“Would I play or come into the Wallaby camp or whether I don’t, this is what I’m going to be doing.

“We had a conversation about what they were doing in camp and he was telling me how hard they were working. And I said, ‘you know what Rens, that’s great to hear, but what I’m hearing is that is four weeks of hard work. Four weeks is not enough.

“As soon as that finishes and they get six weeks holiday, that’ll stop. I’m four months into a holiday, this is my regime. If you are figuring out who I am as a person, this is how I live.

“I touched on that I don’t need to come in and play. We had a great conversation and then he invited me in.”

The 70-test flyhalf joined the Wallabies set-up in late July 2021 and began to train with the squad, however the then 33-year-old was not used immediately.

Against the All Blacks the team used Noah Lolesio in the Bledisloe series, which ended in three defeats for the Wallabies and put a dent in their Rugby Championship title hopes.

In September the Wallabies coaches handed Cooper a start for the first of two clashes against the Springboks, coming off a Lions series win and two wins over Argentina.

Despite questions from his teammates over whether he was nervous ahead of a return to the international area, Cooper explained he had no doubt about what he would provide the team.

“I just knew, when I look back to when I last played for Australia and look at where I am now, I’m totally different physically, I’m totally different mentally. I live a totally different life,” he explained.

“If I was kinda successful then, now I just know I’m going to be able to do my job at a very high level.

“When I came into that game [against South Africa], people were like ‘you haven’t played for five or six years, you nervous, how you feeling?’ and I said ‘I’ll tell you one thing, it’s a game’.

“It’s not that I don’t care if we win or lose, I just know what level I’m going to come at. I can guarantee this is the level that I’ll play at.

“Can I guarantee that we are going to win? No. What it means is, this is what I’m going to give.”

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A magical night for the Wallabies and Cooper unfolded with the flyhalf kicking a perfect seven from seven off the tee for 23 points in the Wallabies 28-26 shock win on the Gold Coast.

The win was capped by a fairytale finish with the No 10 slotting a last second penalty on the buzzer to take the lead, a moment which

“I remember this on the field, we get the penalty. If you watch the video, I look over to Hodgey.

“I took a kick maybe five, ten minutes before that and it was like 40 metres out, twenty metres in from the sideline. I hit this kick and I’m watching it fly and I’m thinking ‘oh it’s going to hit the crossbar, f*** it’s going to fall short’. It just went over.

“When we get the next kick, exact same spot but five or six metres back from that, I look at Hodgey, he thinks the score is different. He’s like ‘bro just tap it and kick it out’.

“And I was like ‘bro we are losing by one’ and he goes white, so I say ‘I’ll kick it’.

“For me that was a crucial moment in my own development and my own journey. As athletes that is like basket ballers taking a three pointer to win the game, or a free throw to win the game and the game is over.

“So it was like hey it’s a cool moment but I understand that you [Hodge] are better than me at taking long range kicks.

“Even when we had that conversation, if that was five or six years ago I would have wanted the tee, I would have wanted the accolades, wanted to be the hero because that probably would’ve masked over a lot of the shortcuts I’d taken.

“Just to be able to be honest with myself in that every day I’d done the work. So now we are in this moment, I’m happy, someone else take it. If you are better at this, you do it.

“When it was on me to kick it, I actually knew I’d done work and practice for years for moments like this. It doesn’t guarantee I’m going to get the kick, but I’m going to do my best and live with that”

“It wasn’t either [elation or reflection]. As soon as I started running into the ball, for some reason every step just felt perfect, I hit the ball and I just knew.

“There is a moment where I close my eyes and just look up, I knew that moment was bigger than me.”

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fl 28 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"fl's idea, if I can speak for him to speed things up, was for it to be semifinalists first, Champions Cup (any that somehow didn't make a league semi), then Challenge's semi finalists (which would most certainly have been outside their league semi's you'd think), then perhaps the quarter finalists of each in the same manner. I don't think he was suggesting whoever next performed best in Europe but didn't make those knockouts (like those round of 16 losers), I doubt that would ever happen."


That's not quite my idea.

For a 20 team champions cup I'd have 4 teams qualify from the previous years champions cup, and 4 from the previous years challenge cup. For a 16 team champions cup I'd have 3 teams qualify from the previous years champions cup, and 1 from the previous years challenge cup.


"The problem I mainly saw with his idea (much the same as you see, that league finish is a better indicator) is that you could have one of the best candidates lose in the quarters to the eventual champions, and so miss out for someone who got an easier ride, and also finished lower in the league, perhaps in their own league, and who you beat everytime."

If teams get a tough draw in the challenge cup quarters, they should have won more pool games and so got better seeding. My system is less about finding the best teams, and more about finding the teams who perform at the highest level in european competition.

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fl 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Would I'd be think"

Would I'd be think.


"Well that's one starting point for an error in your reasoning. Do you think that in regards to who should have a say in how it's setup in the future as well? Ie you would care what they think or what might be more fair for their teams (not saying your model doesn't allow them a chance)?"

Did you even read what you're replying to? I wasn't arguing for excluding south africa, I was pointing out that the idea of quantifying someone's fractional share of european rugby is entirely nonsensical. You're the one who was trying to do that.


"Yes, I was thinking about an automatic qualifier for a tier 2 side"

What proportion of european rugby are they though? Got to make sure those fractions match up! 😂


"Ultimately what I think would be better for t2 leagues would be a third comp underneath the top two tournemnts where they play a fair chunk of games, like double those two. So half a dozen euro teams along with the 2 SA and bottom bunch of premiership and top14, some Championship and div 2 sides thrown in."

I don't know if Championship sides want to be commuting to Georgia every other week.


"my thought was just to create a middle ground now which can sustain it until that time has come, were I thought yours is more likely to result in the constant change/manipulation it has been victim to"

a middle ground between the current system and a much worse system?

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fl 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Huh? You mean last in their (4 team) pools/regions? My idea was 6/5/4, 6 the max, for guarenteed spots, with a 20 team comp max, so upto 5 WCs (which you'd make/or would be theoretically impossible to go to one league (they'd likely be solely for its participants, say 'Wales', rather than URC specifically. Preferrably). I gave 3 WC ideas for a 18 team comp, so the max URC could have (with a member union or club/team, winning all of the 6N, and Champions and Challenge Cup) would be 9."


That's a lot of words to say that I was right. If (e.g.) Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.


"And the reason say another URC (for example) member would get the spot over the other team that won the Challenge Cup, would be because they were arguable better if they finished higher in the League."

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.


"It won't diminish desire to win the Challenge Cup, because that team may still be competing for that seed, and if theyre automatic qual anyway, it still might make them treat it more seriously"

This doesn't make sense. Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't. Under my system, teams will "compete for the seed" by winning the Challenge Cup, under yours they won't. If a team is automatically qualified anyway why on earth would that make them treat it more seriously?


"I'm promoting the idea of a scheme that never needs to be changed again"

So am I. I'm suggesting that places could be allocated according to a UEFA style points sytem, or according to a system where each league gets 1/4 of the spots, and the remaining 1/4 go to the best performing teams from the previous season in european competition.


"Yours will promote outcry as soon as England (or any other participant) fluctates. Were as it's hard to argue about a the basis of an equal share."

Currently there is an equal share, and you are arguing against it. My system would give each side the opportunity to achieve an equal share, but with more places given to sides and leagues that perform well. This wouldn't promote outcry, it would promote teams to take european competition more seriously. Teams that lose out because they did poorly the previous year wouldn't have any grounds to complain, they would be incentivised to try harder this time around.


"This new system should not be based on the assumption of last years results/performances continuing."

That's not the assumption I'm making. I don't think the teams that perform better should be given places in the competition because they will be the best performing teams next year, but because sport should be based on merit, and teams should be rewarded for performing well.


"I'm specifically promoting my idea because I think it will do exactly what you want, increase european rugyb's importance."

how?


"I won't say I've done anything compressive"

Compressive.

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