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'I thought Cork was a small place but the rugby world is even smaller'

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Two weeks on from the amazing sight of Oli Hoskins stepping off the Wallabies bench with twelve minutes to go versus England at Twickenham, London Irish boss Declan Kidney is still beaming about how the uncapped tighthead became an emergency call-up, going from club training that Monday to make a Test debut five days later.      

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The 28-year-old had been playing the fantasy-fiction game Dungeons and Dragons with some friends on November 7 when he noticed he had two missed called from a random number. It was Petrus du Plessis, the Wallabies scrum coach and his old Irish teammate, wondering if his pal Hoskins was fit. 

The next day, Hoskins was training away in the gym at Irish when he was told at 11am he had officially been called up by Australia. 

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Twenty minutes later he was bounding in the doors of the Wallabies team hotel at The Lensbury. That was Monday and three days later he was named on the replacements bench versus England as concussions had ruled out tightheads Taniela Tupou and Allan Alaalatoa. Two days after that he was replacing James Slipper in front of 82,000 people at Twickenham. Wow!

Two weeks on from that incredible moment, Hoskins will be back in the vicinity of Twickenham this Saturday, packing down for London Irish as they take on Harlequins in a Premiership match at The Stoop.  

“I thought Cork was a small place but the rugby world is even smaller,” quipped Irish boss Kidney to RugbyPass when asked for his thoughts on how the son of English parents, who grew up in Perth dreaming of representing the Wallabies, finally lived that dream in the most amazingly spontaneously way. “Petrus who was working here, he was tighthead here with Oli and then Petrus started his scrum coaching here as player-coach.

“He then headed off to Glasgow, did a little bit there and now he is in with the Aussies as scrum coach and Petrus went the back door route to ask Oli was he fit. So the official enquiries came in after that. It was all done very quickly.

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“He enjoyed it. There is enough stuff on YouTube and everything about what it meant to him [Hoskins shed tears at the Wallabies team announcement]. He will probably get ribbed about that at some stage but it was just one of those really good sporting moments.  

“He has been training well since he came in. It was a story that shows all schoolboys that if you stick at it you never know what is going to come your way and he really enjoyed his time in camp. It was odds-on that if the lads passed their HIA test that they were going to come back in for that last Test (against Wales) but he really enjoyed his experience and he will be all the richer for it. He is going to be up against it the weekend with Joe Marler, so another big task ahead of him on Saturday.”

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GrahamVF 13 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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