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'I was laughing as I went on' - Ewan Ashman's remarkable rise

Ewan Ashman /PA

Two months on from his outrageous Scotland debut, you get the sense Ewan Ashman is still scraping himself off the ceiling.

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He beams when you ask him about the bonkerdom of that afternoon, the day the Wallabies were vanquished in large part by his wonderful, diving score in the northwest corner of Murrayfield. He plays down that finish – the ruthless instincts of an elite winger, not a 21-year-old hooker on his first cap. He talks about the tears and the joy and the elation. Then he shakes his head and chuckles as if to question whether it really happened at all.

“Wild,” is Ashman’s adjective of choice. “The whole day, I was just trying not to cry. It still feels like a dream now.”

Seventy minutes against Australia. Another twenty the following week when the world champion Springboks brought their behemoths north. Moments that will live him forever. Glowing words from Gregor Townsend, the Scotland coach and a long-time admirer.

Then back to Sale Sharks. Back to the stark reality of fourth choice in the posse of fine hookers at Alex Sanderson’s disposal. Back to the bottom of the pecking order. How quickly rugby can change.

Ashman embarked on perhaps the shortest loan spell in sporting history – three days and a couple of training sessions at Glasgow Warriors – when Tommy Taylor and Curtis Langdon got injured, and Sale were swiftly hauling him back to Manchester. Ashman has been in the saddle since.

Ewan Ashman
Ashman dived in for a brilliant try as Scotland edged Dave Rennie’s Australia in November (Photo by Paul Devlin/SNS Group via Getty Images)
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“Gregor thrust me in, gave me my first cap when I had only 12 appearances for Sale. It went as well as it could have, a dream come true,” he tells RugbyPass.

“To come back to Sale, and still not be in favour, probably third or fourth choice. Al didn’t really want me to go anywhere, but I said to him, ‘I need to be playing, I want to play for Scotland, so I want to go on loan’. I knew Edinburgh or Glasgow would have me.

“Then Tommy had a small tear in his bicep, Curtis had a small calf strain. They were both out for a couple of weeks. I came back and Al started me. I’d gone from being on loan to being the starting hooker, and I’ve managed to hold on to it for a couple of weeks. I’m loving it at the moment.

“Last season, Sale had a rotation, so I was playing every two weeks. I think that was Al sussing out what kind of players he had in his first year. This year, maybe since we’re struggling a wee bit more, there hasn’t been as much rotation. I’m dying to hold on to that spot.”

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Indeed, Sale have not been so brutally effective this season as they were last, Sanderson steering them to the semi-finals in his first campaign at the helm.

After Friday’s maddening loss at Bristol, Sharks sit tenth in the Premiership at the halfway point. Ashman, though, is getting the game time he craved. Successive starts and two tries against Ospreys, Wasps and the Bears have given him opportunities to find form with the Six Nations looming.

Carrying is his undoubted point of difference. It has endeared him to Scottish coaches, never more so than when he finished the 2019 Under-20s World Cup as the tournament’s top try-scorer. And it melds neatly with how Townsend was his team to play. Ashman yearns to rumble about in open prairie with the ball in his paws, once referring to himself as ‘a winger in a fat person’s body’, but he knows too the importance of nailing the basics.

“The running is definitely my x-factor, but the set-piece comes first. Hanging out on the edges comes after.

“Against Ospreys, I expressed myself how I want to. The past couple of games, I’ve had a really good set-piece, more mature performances, but not the type of rugby I’d ideally want to play.

“I want the ball, I want to run over people and get carries under my belt. Gregor definitely encourages that. It suits me down to the ground – running, high-tempo rugby, with a bit of freedom. It’s something I want to do more.”

Unsurprisingly, and despite the more experienced rivals blocking his path, Sale hold Ashman in extremely high regard. Neil Briggs, the club’s academy transition coach, says he could win 100 caps because, as he bluntly put it, Ashman is ‘f*****g talented’. They have no plans to let him go and Ashman is not agitating to leave.

Despite Ashman’s early try, Sale Sharks were beaten by Bristol Bears at Ashton Gate on Friday night (Photo by Getty Images)

His run in the starting pack is timely, though. Townsend will soon name his Six Nations squad, and Fraser Brown, the Glasgow co-captain, has returned from injury to join Stuart McInally and George Turner as the senior hookers in contention to play.

Having devoured his first morsels of Test rugby, how Ashman longs to gorge on it again. The championship opener, at Murrayfield, against England, will be a spicy affair.

“I’m so hungry to do it again,” he says. “It’s only three club starts, I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but I want to keep building that momentum, getting set-piece experience which is vital for a young front-row to learn the dark arts.

“I wasn’t expecting any game time in the autumn. The week of the Australia game, Rambo (McInally) ate something dodgy in camp and was ill, didn’t train on the Monday. Nobody told me anything. Gregor didn’t say anything to me as the team was going up. I was shocked when my name came up at 16. I was just trying not to smile too much. I was buzzing.

“In the game, George went off injured after 10 minutes. I couldn’t really believe it – I was laughing as I went on the pitch… ‘what is going on here?’ I don’t even remember the last time I played 70 minutes. Cam Redpath started absolutely pissing himself next to me, patting me on the back. The rest couldn’t have gone much better.

“The Six Nations, that’s what everybody plays for. All you want to do is play for Scotland, and those games against England are ones everyone remembers you for.”

Ashman, of course, could have been packing down with a rose on his breast rather than a thistle, had he not felt such fierce national identity. Born in Toronto, where his father Jonathan was working, and raised in Sandbach, an hour south of Manchester, he has never lived north of the border.

His deep-rooted sense of Scottishness was instilled early and irreversibly by his dad, a proud Edinburgh man.

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Former Scotland prop Matt Proudfoot is now England’s forwards coach (Photo by Getty Images)

“After my debut was the first time I’ve seen my old man cry,” Ashman says. “He is hugely Scottish. He cuts about in Scotland rugby tops everywhere he goes. He has about three in rotation that he constantly wears.

“He’s put in a huge number of hours driving me around, coaching me when I was younger. He took me up to Murrayfield basically every other weekend.

“I probably owe him all the success I’ve had now. If he didn’t coach me and put all that time in, there’s no way I’d be where I am today.”

And so, as Ashman has stressed before, when England forwards coach Matt Proudfoot fetched up at Sale to gauge his interest in joining the camp, it was a short conversation.

“He asked me, ‘do you want to play for England?’ I said, ‘not really’. He texted me a few times after games, giving me feedback. He was a really nice guy, and he had won caps for Scotland. He was very understanding.

“I told him I’d spoken to Gregor, I was playing for Scotland and that was my decision made. I didn’t want to lead them on or mess them around, I got it out there pretty soon.

“It was never a question. My dad always encouraged me to make my own decision. I was saying, ‘what are you talking about, there’s not even a decision to be made?’. He never pressured me, but it was a very Scottish household.”

Townsend and Scotland can rejoice at that.

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fl 13 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Would I'd be think"

Would I'd be think.


"Well that's one starting point for an error in your reasoning. Do you think that in regards to who should have a say in how it's setup in the future as well? Ie you would care what they think or what might be more fair for their teams (not saying your model doesn't allow them a chance)?"

Did you even read what you're replying to? I wasn't arguing for excluding south africa, I was pointing out that the idea of quantifying someone's fractional share of european rugby is entirely nonsensical. You're the one who was trying to do that.


"Yes, I was thinking about an automatic qualifier for a tier 2 side"

What proportion of european rugby are they though? Got to make sure those fractions match up! 😂


"Ultimately what I think would be better for t2 leagues would be a third comp underneath the top two tournemnts where they play a fair chunk of games, like double those two. So half a dozen euro teams along with the 2 SA and bottom bunch of premiership and top14, some Championship and div 2 sides thrown in."

I don't know if Championship sides want to be commuting to Georgia every other week.


"my thought was just to create a middle ground now which can sustain it until that time has come, were I thought yours is more likely to result in the constant change/manipulation it has been victim to"

a middle ground between the current system and a much worse system?

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fl 28 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Huh? You mean last in their (4 team) pools/regions? My idea was 6/5/4, 6 the max, for guarenteed spots, with a 20 team comp max, so upto 5 WCs (which you'd make/or would be theoretically impossible to go to one league (they'd likely be solely for its participants, say 'Wales', rather than URC specifically. Preferrably). I gave 3 WC ideas for a 18 team comp, so the max URC could have (with a member union or club/team, winning all of the 6N, and Champions and Challenge Cup) would be 9."


That's a lot of words to say that I was right. If (e.g.) Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.


"And the reason say another URC (for example) member would get the spot over the other team that won the Challenge Cup, would be because they were arguable better if they finished higher in the League."

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.


"It won't diminish desire to win the Challenge Cup, because that team may still be competing for that seed, and if theyre automatic qual anyway, it still might make them treat it more seriously"

This doesn't make sense. Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't. Under my system, teams will "compete for the seed" by winning the Challenge Cup, under yours they won't. If a team is automatically qualified anyway why on earth would that make them treat it more seriously?


"I'm promoting the idea of a scheme that never needs to be changed again"

So am I. I'm suggesting that places could be allocated according to a UEFA style points sytem, or according to a system where each league gets 1/4 of the spots, and the remaining 1/4 go to the best performing teams from the previous season in european competition.


"Yours will promote outcry as soon as England (or any other participant) fluctates. Were as it's hard to argue about a the basis of an equal share."

Currently there is an equal share, and you are arguing against it. My system would give each side the opportunity to achieve an equal share, but with more places given to sides and leagues that perform well. This wouldn't promote outcry, it would promote teams to take european competition more seriously. Teams that lose out because they did poorly the previous year wouldn't have any grounds to complain, they would be incentivised to try harder this time around.


"This new system should not be based on the assumption of last years results/performances continuing."

That's not the assumption I'm making. I don't think the teams that perform better should be given places in the competition because they will be the best performing teams next year, but because sport should be based on merit, and teams should be rewarded for performing well.


"I'm specifically promoting my idea because I think it will do exactly what you want, increase european rugyb's importance."

how?


"I won't say I've done anything compressive"

Compressive.

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JW 31 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Generally disagree with what? The possibility that they would get whitewashed, or the idea they shouldn't gain access until they're good enough?


I think the first is a fairly irrelevant view, decide on the second and then worry about the first. Personally I'd have had them in a third lvl comp with all the bottom dwellers of the leagues. I liked the idea of those league clubs resting their best players, and so being able to lift their standards in the league, though, so not against the idea that T2 sides go straight into Challenge Cup, but that will be a higher level with smaller comps and I think a bit too much for them (not having followed any of their games/performances mind you).

Because I don't think that having the possibility of a team finishing outside the quarter finals to qualify automatically will be a good idea. I'd rather have a team finishing 5th in their domestic league.

fl's idea, if I can speak for him to speed things up, was for it to be semifinalists first, Champions Cup (any that somehow didn't make a league semi), then Challenge's semi finalists (which would most certainly have been outside their league semi's you'd think), then perhaps the quarter finalists of each in the same manner. I don't think he was suggesting whoever next performed best in Europe but didn't make those knockouts (like those round of 16 losers), I doubt that would ever happen.


The problem I mainly saw with his idea (much the same as you see, that league finish is a better indicator) is that you could have one of the best candidates lose in the quarters to the eventual champions, and so miss out for someone who got an easier ride, and also finished lower in the league, perhaps in their own league, and who you beat everytime.

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JW 49 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Well I was mainly referring to my thinking about the split, which was essentially each /3 rounded up, but reliant on WCs to add buffer.


You may have been going for just a 16 team league ranking cup?


But yes, those were just ideas for how to select WCs, all very arbitrary but I think more interesting in ways than just going down a list (say like fl's) of who is next in line. Indeed in my reply to you I hinted at say the 'URC' WC spot actually being given to the Ireland pool and taken away from the Welsh pool.


It's easy to think that is excluding, and making it even harder on, a poor performing country, but this is all in context of a 18 or 20 team comp where URC (at least to those teams in the URC) got 6 places, which Wales has one side lingering around, and you'd expect should make. Imagine the spice in that 6N game with Italy, or any other of the URC members though! Everyone talks about SA joining the 6N, so not sure it will be a problem, but it would be a fairly minor one imo.


But that's a structure of the leagues were instead of thinking how to get in at the top, I started from the bottom and thought that it best those teams doing qualify for anything. Then I thought the two comps should be identical in structure. So that's were an even split comes in with creating numbers, and the 'UEFA' model you suggest using in some manner, I thought could be used for the WC's (5 in my 20 team comp) instead of those ideas of mine you pointed out.


I see Jones has waded in like his normal self when it comes to SH teams. One thing I really like about his idea is the name change to the two competitions, to Cup and Shield. Oh, and home and away matches.

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fl 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Yes I was the one who suggested to use a UEFA style point. And I guessed, that based on the last 5 years we should start with 6 top14, 6 URC and 4 Prem."

Yes I am aware that you suggested it, but you then went on to say that we should initially start with a balance that clearly wasn't derived from that system. I'm not a mind reader, so how was I to work out that you'd arrived at that balance by dint of completely having failed to remember the history of the competition.


"Again, I was the one suggesting that, but you didn't like the outcome of that."

I have no issues with the outcome of that, I had an issue with a completely random allocation of teams that you plucked out of thin air.

Interestingly its you who now seem to be renouncing the UEFA style points system, because you don't like the outcome of reducing URC representation.


"4 teams for Top14, URC and Prem, 3 teams for other leagues and the last winner, what do you think?"

What about 4 each + 4 to the best performing teams in last years competition not to have otherwise qualified? Or what about a UEFA style system where places are allocated to leagues on the basis of their performance in previous years' competitions?

There's no point including Black Lion if they're just going to get whitewashed every year, which I think would be a possibility. At most I'd support 1 team from the Rugby Europe Super Cup, or the Russian Championship being included. Maybe the best placed non-Israeli team and the Russian winners could play off every year for the spot? But honestly I think its best if they stay limited to the Challenge Cup for now.

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