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'I was offered another two-year deal at Bristol and it would have been the easiest thing in the world to have stayed'

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Who’d be a new Gallagher Premiership head coach? It can be an unforgiving place, learning your trade and earning your stripes in the full glare of the media spotlight. Job security isn’t all that attractive either. A half-dozen clubs have changed their set-up within the last year and the results have not been kind so far for Johnathan Thomas at Worcester.

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Having hooked up with Bristol in 2016 as a defence coach, the ex-Wales back row could have cosily stayed on there as an assistant as a two-year extension had been offered. However, the then forwards coach instead sought out fresh pastures 65 miles away from Ashton Gate, switching to Sixways where the grand ambition is to stop being a club forever occupying the bottom few rungs of the table.

The teething problems for Thomas have been challenging, Worcester winning just three of their dozen top-flight games since he joined the Alan Solomons ticket as a forwards coach. That ledger hasn’t improved since he was promoted to head coach at the start of 2021, Thomas seeing his team beaten on all five occasions with him at the helm.

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However, you would be wrong to think it is an energy-sapping experience for the 38-year-old who won 67 Test caps with Wales during his playing days. If his career told Thomas anything it’s that rugby has its share of adversity and he is willing to take the repeated blows to the chin now as Worcester boss if it means everything will work out for the better in the long run.

The obstacles don’t get any less daunting, though, as Saturday will be a sliding doors moment, his old team Bristol, the current league leaders, arriving into Sixways. He could be riding their crest of the wave. Instead, he is looking to give joint bottom club Worcester a leg up in a league where there is currently 26 points separating top from bottom halfway through the 22-game season.

“What is picking me up is the fact that I’m unbelievably passionate about the game, always have been since I was about four years of age,” said Thomas when quizzed by RugbyPass at his weekly Worcester media conference on what is keeping him enthusiastic despite the bruising run of losses, not only with him at the helm but stretching back to the first day of the season in November when they grabbed their only win, a sweaty one-point success against London Irish.

“So I love a challenge, I’m a very driven person but I have also suffered a lot of adversity during my career. Listen I could go through so many. I’m fortunate to have played in four Celtic League winning teams with the Ospreys, two Grand Slams, Triple Crowns and I know what success looks like but I have also been in teams that have failed and gone through adversity.

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“The big thing is if you are passionate and if you are driven, the thing you realise is there is really a fine line between success and failure and there is never such a bigger margin between the two as people think. 

“The phrase often used to the players on where we are at the moment is be disappointed but don’t be devastated because if you are devastated about your situation it means it clouds your emotions and it affects you the following week, so yes we are disappointed but we’re not devastated because we have got to get back on the horse. 

“In terms of bringing it back myself I knew when I made the decision to leave Bristol, I was offered another two-year deal at Bristol and it would have been the easiest thing in the world to have stayed there because I was enjoying my time at Bristol but I was really excited about the challenge about coming to Worcester. 

“I guess to answer your question, what we are going through now is no surprise to me because when I signed up I knew what I was signing up to. That is why I think talking about emotion, I get disappointed because I hate to lose. I’m the same as everyone else, I go home after a game and I’m disappointed.

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“But you have just got to understand what the bigger picture is and I knew when I signed for the club I was fully aware, I did my due diligence, spoke to a lot of people and knew the internal issues that the club had and I know there is a process we have got to go through so once you have got that vision, the process and the plan you don’t defer from that. 

“As I say, I enjoy rugby. When you finish as a player and you come back coaching what rugby is it’s a roller coaster every week. The week is always about building up to the crescendo of the game whether you are a player or a coach and it’s the high of the weekend and it’s like a drug, isn’t it? 

“That is what we do it for and then you either get the high of winning or the disappointment of losing but again you get back on the horse and you do it the following week. Why do you do it, who knows? It’s a very good question. I’m not a clinical psychologist and I don’t know why we all sign up to it to be honest because it would be a lot easier life to be a teacher or something, but it’s probably something to do with your personality and loving the highs and lows of sport. That is why we do it.”

Games have come and gone against Sale, Exeter, Leicester, Wasps and fellow strugglers Gloucester with Thomas as the Worcester head coach. However, rather than get hung up on the downside of these losses, Thomas is more inclined to flip the picture and instead outline the things that have enthused him so far in the eight weeks he has been the Warriors boss.

“What has pleased me is we have now got the team of coaches we need to be successful. We were a coach light for a little while and we brought in Mark Jones from the Crusaders two months ago. The game these days is not about one person so you need a team of people and it would be the same in football.

“It’s not about (Jose) Mourinho or (Jurgen) Klopp. They have all got a team of people behind them that help them succeed and with Mark Jones, Mark Irish, Matt Sherratt, there is a team of coaches there that I’m really happy with and that is huge.

“The whole thing around co-coaching is the chemistry as a group and being aligned and the players seeing that you are aligned is important to them. You always use the analogy of mum and dad. If mum says one thing and dad says another then you know that gives mixed messages to your kids and then they will always go to the one that is the softer touch, so it’s a bit like that with coaching.

“You all need to be aligned, you all need to be speaking – different mouths, one tongue. That is what we are at the moment and that has really pleased me. The other thing that has pleased me is I’m really enjoying working with the players.

“As I said earlier it is disappointment every week that we are losing but there is a good spirit in the camp. The players, I really enjoy working with them. They want to get better, they have got a good growth mindset and they are responding to what we are asking in training which is not always getting the transference at the moment but we will.”

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JPM 1 hour ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

Unfortunately you don't know anything about French rugby, coaches and players but still making a lot of assumptions and judgements to push your prefabricated and simplistic point of view that Dupont is manipulating everything and is a bad guy. I am not a NZ rugby specialist and wouldn't dare make such theories about what is going on within the ABs team. Therefore my advice to you is to do like Dupont and stay humble when you don't know all the background of the issues !!!


Firstly if you knew a bit of Galthié, he is not the type of coach who is going to ask advice to his players and even his captain about team selection. He is as stubborn as you...


Second Ramos has played a lot of times as 10 with Toulouse and therefore Dupont (in particular when Ntamack is injured and unfortunately it has often happened recently and for long periods). He even played 10 during the last 3 games of the 2024 6N and this was far better performance than the first two games with Jalibert as 10.


Thirdly Jalibert lacked of respect to a La Rochelle player so your theory is once again out.


Fourth as I explained to you Galthié went for a 6-2 bench and Jalibert can only play 10 which doesn't fit that plan. Furthermore as 15 Buros is better under high balls than Ramos and everybody is prepared for a tactical kicking game.


So you can blame Galthié for a lot of things (as you clearly enjoy doing at the end of your post and you should be very happy as an AB fan) but certainly not Dupont. Sorry once more for your conspiracy theory.


And don't worry about potential disharmony in the French team; they are excellent mates around their captain. Jalibert is well known in the French rugby circles to have not a strong character (and we saw that in the WC quarter finals as he is very nervous in any decisive international game unlike Ntamack and Ramos as for his late penalty kick vs England this year).


In conclusion enjoy the game tmrw night. It is good that the ABs are very upset; we should watch a great game of rugby. I hope for running rugby and not too much kicking. With 5 key players injured on our side (Ntamack, Baille, Atonio, Cros and Penaud) and 2 on your side I and various French fans see you as favourites. I obviously hope for another result.


If you are interested you can read a good article in the Guardian on the subject of France-NZ games.

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KB 1 hour ago
The 'one difference' between Boks and the back-to-back All Blacks

Consistency hasnt been there they have many great players SA were also not unbeaten in the 2023 WC - NZ were in 2015 WC McCaw and Carter Nonu and Smith - SA did not have those Marque players in those postions in 2019 or 2023 - I wouldnt rank them ahead of the 20I5 ABs - They clocked up 60 points against France in the QF - Furthermore I do not believe for one moment SA won 2023 fairly no way - they were so favoured it became obvious that behind the scenes SA the nation bought the title - Their last 3 matches were won by a solitary point there were many contentious decisions that went their way that it became obvious it wasnt coincidence - Sport has been hijacked by a satanic cult just as is Politics

Some players coaches officials and sponsors are involved - they know who they are - its called Freemasonry - any sport that allows betting is corrupt - its not all about money either for these parasites its also about control - Lots of American NFL players have spoken openly about games being scripted - Football is also rigged Referees have been caught on film showing freemason hand signs - The 95 RWC final ranks as the highest and most obvious attempt at cheating There was no way SA were going to allow NZ to gate crash Nelson Mandelas reunification party - NZ were so good they had to posion almost the entire team to get a 3 point win - a Hollywood Movie ( theres your Red Flag ) was made about SAs triumph called Invictus


William Henley wrote a poem called Invictus


It starts


Out of the night that covers me BLACK ( All Blacks ) as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever GODS maybe for my unconquerable Soul ...( Olan says INVICTUS is an evil Malevolent entity who corrupted the Titans ... this is Mandelas double meaning speech ( hes a fraud ) - of thanks for helping overcome SA's adversary NZ - There is only ONE true God Yahuah - Only a false god would be complicit in Cheating Corruption and Harming others to win a RWC for a sick and sinful Nation ) the poem ends with


I am the CAPTAIN of my soul


SA will forever bear the stain of guilt and disgrace over their involvement in poisoning the ABs a day before the 95 RWC Final

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CO 1 hour ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

I cannot believe that you don't think the French rugby team coach and captain are not discussing putting Jalibert on the bench in favour of Duponts club teammate that doesn't even play at 10.


This is a terrible, massive insult to a 10 and I'm sure Dupont would also be very enraged if benched for a player that doesn't even play halfback.


A good captain would've insisted to the coach that it was an idea of madness and either select Jalibert or replace him with another 10 if you want him to be reserve.


Jalibert may not be the world's finest tacklers but that's often not a tens main strength that the loose forwards and second five cover. An intercept pass is never great but they happen.


When any player is playing for his club then it's club first, respect doesn't need to be shown to opposition players simply because they're internationals.


Who exactly are you claiming Jalibert hasn't respected? If it's Toulouse international players then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this bench demotion out.


The outcome of selecting Jalibert to the bench and he then throwing his croissants out the window of the team bus immediately prior to playing the Allblacks is a disaster that will be team disharmony as any team mates of Jalibert are in a state of anger and revolt so a performance that will be sub optimal against a team that is thirsting for revenge against France.


I don't know about you but the Allblacks are very upset they've lost twice in a row to France and want to put out a statement performance so this preparation by Galthie of creating havoc looks to me like a coach that is clueless.

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