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'I was stopped in the street': Steve Borthwick claps back at boastful New Zealand public

England huddle after losing the International Test Match between New Zealand All Blacks and England at Eden Park on July 13, 2024 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Phil Walter/Getty Images)

England head coach has clapped back at the boastful New Zealand public who stopped him “at least 10 times a day” to tell him how much the All Blacks would smash England by.

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After coming within one play of a draw at Eden Park, Borthwick remained proud of what his younger England side are building and the way they defied the expectations of New Zealand fans.

Two try assists by Marcus Smith on cross-field kicks to Immanuel Feyi-Waboso and Tommy Freeman gave the visitors a 14-13 lead at half-time.

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England led the All Blacks 17-13 with a quarter of the game to go, and ended up one play away from coming away with a draw.

“A lot of people were saying after the first Test that New Zealand were going to get so much better,” Borthwick explained in his post-match review.

“I’ve been told by people in the street about 10 times a day how much we were going to get blown away at Eden Park.

“I was stopped in the street yesterday by a gentlemen who told me that they’d unpicked our rush defence, they knew how we were going to beat it, and I said ‘ok thank you for that’.

“I was told in the lift today that it was a privilege for us to play at Eden Park and we’d be lucky to get away with less than 50 points conceded.

“And the team just kept coming at New Zealand today and just kept fighting.

“When the team went down 24-17, some teams wouldn’t have come back like these guys did.

“Get back to the New Zealand line and try hard to get the seven points for that draw. That’s great credit to them, and I’m very proud to work with them.”

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“A lot of people were writing us off.”

On whether Borthwick’s England team had earned the respect of the Kiwi public, Borthwick was unconcerned and said he was more focused on getting his team where they needed to be.

“My concern is firstly with the players being proud of their efforts themselves, and I think they should be,” he siad.

“England rugby supporters of the team are making me proud. My job is to keep making sure I help this team develop, I think we’ve got a lot of work to do, I don’t shy away from that.”

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The England head coach clarified that the banter with New Zealand fans was all in good manner and he and the squad have “loved” being in New Zealand, with many players on their first tour to the country.

“I think what a brilliant country to come in tour in, you have that passion for rugby. We’ve thoroughly enjoyed it, we’ve been here just under three weeks and it’s been a phenomenal few weeks here,” he said.

“The players, the whole management team, have loved being in this fabulous country. To have people so passionate about this incredible sport, it is brilliant.

“Obviously in England we have that passion, but we also have a lot of competing sports.

“I will reiterate how much we have loved being in New Zealand, how we’ve been welcomed in New Zealand, even the stopping in the street has been done in a good manner.

“Getting trapped in the lift, it’s done in a good manner by passionate New Zealand supporters.”

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Cheers 253 days ago

I’ll take “Things That Didn’t Happen” for a million dollars Eddie

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JW 254 days ago

Shame England aren’t doing what Wales are and having an extra week in NZ against a province to give the squadies a run and let the big boys relax and enjoy a team holiday.


They could have played Hawkes Bay, maybe they would have a way to get Steve smiling down there…

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JW 254 days ago

This is that arrogance or stupidity type situation, picking your poison, Kiwis trying to make Steve Borthwick smile. The nerve!

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DarstedlyDan 254 days ago

Stopped in the street 10 times every day? No wonder they lost, their coach was spending all his time wandering the city.


I call bollocks to this. And the elevator story. Tales used to motivate his team, based on probably a couple of people telling him they thought the ABs would win.


Imagine that, the arrogance of fans thinking their team would win.

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Bull Shark 250 days ago

I remember the story, when the Boks beat New Zealand at Wellington. On arrival at their hotel patrons of the hotel, many of them Kiwis, welcomed them in with a standing ovation. Allegedly.


So I think the truth is that giving stick and respect are two sides of the same coin. It’s part of the game.

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Terry24 252 days ago

NZ screamed and howled arrogance at Ireland for fans hoping we would win the world cup and for Sexton daring to suggest we were contenders.

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leon 253 days ago

If you actually listen, he says it was done in a good way and that he enjoyed the interactions and the passion of the fans but then that doesn’t make for a great headline

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Toaster 254 days ago

Much ado about nothing

Banter as he says

Borthwick is doing a god job and his team could’ve won both matches


Concerns in some areas and lots to work on but lots of positives for both teams

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LW 254 days ago

As if Razor wouldn't get the same thing in London, and love it

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Terry24 253 days ago

He wouldn't and he certainly wouldn't get it in Dublin.

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Toaster 254 days ago

He wouldn’t

People in London wouldn’t care at all

Just not interested

I live here as a kiwi

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Mark and Tania 254 days ago

Just saying - not all

NZer’s all like that - England played well

and pushed us - great series!!

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Toaster 254 days ago

Like what? Jovial banter?

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CO 254 days ago

I thought it was a superb English team, playing great rugby, the best team to tour NZ since 2003. The Irish came out a couple of years ago and were also very savvy, they comfortably bettered a poorly prepared Allblacks side that sacked two coaches as a result. The English were noticeably more physical and harder up front than that history making Irish side who deserved their series win. However this All Black team were significantly better drilled than what the Irish faced and they were ready for the English to bring it.

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MM 253 days ago

Yes, we didn’t wallop the Poms like we did the Paddies in the first game of that series. Definitely a harder nosed team this time.

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Terry24 253 days ago

Ireland played 5 matches on that tour. Still with the excuses?

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JW 254 days ago

Yep, can’t include that Irish series in a context about touring against the All Blacks.


It never happened.

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Terry24 254 days ago

Us New Zealanders being boastful? Surely not. Other nations are arrogant, especially when they beat us. We are humble heroes like our team!!!!!

Humble heroes

Despite their ferocity on the rugby field and their superstar status in the eyes of fans around the world, the All Blacks are known for being humble.

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JK 254 days ago

Winning can bring out the shit behaviour in fans. ABs win a lot, love the tears when they lose

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Bull Shark 254 days ago

SB perfectly describing what we have to put up with in these comment sections constantly.


Poor him. Poor us.

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HH 254 days ago

I have found the “Kiwi”, sense of humour does not translate well on social media. Well in fact probably not anywhere at any time in the current “woke”, world order 🤣, probably best we keep our opinions and jests for the local pub over a few beers with mates my fellow flightless compatriots lol

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Terry24 254 days ago

Current ‘Woke’ order. Oh, Jesus. Get your head out of your phone son. Get real.


If other countries did what NZ supporters do your right wing media would be whinging about ‘Arrogance’ and lack of humility. They’re not ‘Woke’ (whatever the fvck that means).


But you’re right. You are all humble heroes


Humble heroes

Despite their ferocity on the rugby field and their superstar status in the eyes of fans around the world, the All Blacks are known for being humble.

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Jason 254 days ago

The headline reads like Borthwick was being harassed but I’m glad the article clarifies it was all in good spirit.

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Terry24 254 days ago

I agree…maybe. But remember, when Jonny Sexton mentioned once that Ireland were contenders for the RWC, NZ media went berserk with a year long diatribe branding Ireland and Irish as arrogant. NZ players mocked Irish players and supporters after winning the RWC QTR. You have the problem with arrogance.


Humble heroes

Despite their ferocity on the rugby field and their superstar status in the eyes of fans around the world, the All Blacks are known for being humble.

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BH 254 days ago

These kinds of fans are the minority in New Zealand. They’re probably just being cheeky to test their attitude and wanting to have some banter.

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Terry24 254 days ago

Happenned all the time everywhere apparently. You have an arrogance/humility problem in NZ.

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Mzilikazi 25 minutes ago
'Ulster, though no one wants to admit it, isn't much more than a development province right now.'

“I’d love to know the relevant numbers of who comes into professionalism from a club, say as an adult, versus early means like say pathway programmes “


Not sure where you would get that information, JW. But your question piqued my interest, and I looked at the background of some Ulster players. If you are interested/have the time, look at the Wiki site for Ulster rugby, and scroll down to the current squad, where you can then click on the individual players, and often there is good info. on their pathway to Ulster squad.


Not many come in from the AIL teams directly. Robert Baloucoune came from Enniskillen into the Ulster setup, but that was after he played Sevens for Ireland. Big standout missed in his school years is Stuart McCloskey, who never played for an age group team, and it was only after he showed good form playing for AIL team Dungannon, that he was eventually added late to Ulster Academy.


“I’m just thinking ahead. You know Ireland is going to come into the same predicament Aus is at where that next group of youngsters waiting to come into programmes get picked off by the French”


That is not happening with top young players in Ireland. I can’t think of a single example of one that has gone to a French club, or to any other country. But as you say, it could happen in the future.


What has happened to a limited extent is established Irish players moving offshore, but they are few. Jonathan Sexton had a spell with Racing in France…not very successful. Simon Zebo also went over to Racing. Trevor Brennan went to Toulouse, stayed there too, with his sons now playing in France, one at Toulouse, one at Toulon. And more recently the two tens, Joey Carbery to Bordueax, and Ben Healy to Edinburgh.


“I see they’ve near completed a double round robin worth of games, does that mean theres not much left in their season?”


The season finishes around mid April. Schools finish on St Patrick’s Day, 17 th Match. When I lived in Ireland, we had a few Sevens tournaments post season. But never as big a thing as in the Scottish Borders, where the short game was “invented”.

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Poorfour 1 hour ago
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So “it wasn’t foul play because it wasn’t foul play” is - to you - not only an acceptable answer but the only possible answer?


I would hope that the definition of foul play is clear enough that they can say “that wasn’t foul play - even though it resulted in a serious injury - because although player A did not wrap with the right arm, he entered the ruck through the gate and from a legal angle at a legal height, and was supporting his own weight until player B entered the ruck behind him and pushed him onto player C’s leg” or “that wasn’t foul play although players D and E picked player F out of a ruck, tipped him upside down and dropped him on his shoulder because reasons.”


Referees sometimes offer a clear explanation, especially when in discussion with the TMO, but they don’t always, especially for incidents that aren’t reviewed on field. It’s also a recognised flaw in the bunker system that there isn’t an explanation of the card decisions - I’d personally prefer the bunker to prepare a short package of the best angles and play back to the ref their reasoning, with the ref having the final say, like an enhanced TMO. It would cost a few more seconds, but would help the crowd to understand.


Greater clarity carries with it risks - not least that if the subsequent feedback is at odds with the ref’s decision they run the risk of harassment on social media - but rugby is really struggling to show that it can manage these decisions consistently, and offering a clear explanation after the fact would help to ensure better consistency in officiating in future.

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