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'I was stunned, it was surreal... I couldn't have dreamed of it'

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Ivan van Zyl has learned plenty of new tricks since he joined Saracens in 2021. By his own admission, he needed to sharpen his skills to meet the unique demands of European rugby. He has honed his kicking game and adapted to the wind at the StoneX Stadium which he said, “Never stops for a second”.

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But in the two years that the South African has been at the English club, he has helped to educate his teammates on one important thing. At least he is trying to. “I’m still teaching them how to do a proper braai,” he told RugbyPass, using the Afrikaans word for a barbecue.

“I’m the one with the tongs. We had one at my place a few weeks ago and the boys all brought little sausages or smaller bits to nibble. I realised I’m the one who has to bring the steaks.”

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That is not all van Zyl has contributed this season. After losing to an 80th-minute Freddie Burns drop goal in last year’s Gallagher Premiership final, Mark McCall and Owen Farrell encouraged their team to play a more expansive game.

“We played exactly how Leicester wanted us to play,” the Pretoria-born scrum-half said of that 15-12 defeat at Twickenham last June. “This season we have prepared to make smarter decisions and be more adaptable. That is what rugby is. The better we can make decisions the better it is for the team. But the team needs to get you in those positions.”

 

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It’s not a rebrand. Saracens haven’t exactly torn a leaf out of Harlequins’ chaotic playbook, but it is more fluid. That formidable pack is now supplemented with a more attack-minded backline. It has paid off. Only Northampton scored more than Saracens’ plunder of 78 tries in the regular league season.

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But marrying the club’s traditional hard edge with an enterprising mindset requires balance and composure – especially from the man acting as a fulcrum between these two departments. Van Zyl has been that person.

He has started 15 games in this league campaign, six more than last season, and has been the beneficiary of Aled Davies’ hip injury, but van Zyl’s performances have ensured that the Welshman’s absence didn’t hinder the team.

Two weeks ago, at the club’s end-of-year function that doubled up as a farewell party for Jackson Wray, Duncan Taylor, Max Malins and Ruben de Haas, van Zyl was shocked to hear his name called out when it came time to announce the player’s player of the year award.

“I was stunned,” he admitted with wide eyes, clearly still coming to terms with the gong. “It was surreal. To be recognised by this group, with so many internationals who have won European Cups and Premierships, with so many (British and Irish) Lions in there as well, it was incredible.

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“To be voted by them was really humbling. I honestly couldn’t have dreamed of it. Apart from playing for the Springboks, it was the proudest moment of my career.”

When asked why he thought his decorated teammates voted for him, van Zyl, who has just inked a two-year contract extension, remained humble. He cited the extra game-time and gave credit to the pack in front of him as well as Farrell’s influence at first receiver. But that wouldn’t do, so he was pressed further.

“These guys appreciate hard work and that is something I have always taken pride in,” he finally relented. “That is a massive focus for these people. They value the little things that fans maybe don’t see.

 

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“I came here pretty raw. I had spent seven seasons with the Bulls, and you learn to play a certain way in South Africa. It was almost never wet, and the ground was hard. The only time I played in the wind was the odd time in Cape Town. I had this idea that I was sharp, but you come here and it’s a different game.

“I wanted to prove that I belonged in that changing room. Now my game is the best it has ever been. I’m so much better technically. I don’t make as many mistakes as I used to. Every part of my game has improved.”

Van Zyl added that he wants to leave a legacy with the club. Though he didn’t watch much northern hemisphere rugby when he was making his name in South Africa, Saracens’ reputation filtered through the fog and left a mark.

He name-checked Brendan Venter and lauded the foundations set before McCall took full control in 2011. He smiled when speaking of the all-conquering ‘Saffacens’ that included Schalk Brits, Schalk Burger, Vincent Koch, Petrus du Plessis and Neil de Kock.

“When I’d occasionally talk to those guys, they would all speak about Sarries as this incredible place,” van Zyl continued. “I always said that if I ever moved overseas this is the club where I would want to go.

“There is a standard here that not many clubs can match. Making finals is not enough. We judge ourselves by winning trophies. You are not satisfied unless you achieve that goal. That hunger and desire to keep going and do it again and again is something to admire. I have loved being a part of it.”

Besides adding another trinket for the mantlepiece, victory over Sale Sharks on Saturday would accomplish something else that is on van Zyl’s to-do list. At least, he hoped it will. “I haven’t stopped thinking about playing for the Boks again. Of course, it’s every South African rugby player’s dream to play for the Boks and I’d love to be there again.”

The last of his six Test appearances came in November 2018 on South Africa’s end-of-year tour to Europe. He was the starting scrum-half in Rassie Erasmus’ first game in charge – a 22-20 loss to Wales in Washington DC – but was soon overtaken by Faf de Klerk, Cobus Reinach and Herschel Jantjies. By the time the 2019 Rugby World Cup squad was announced a year later, van Zyl was on the periphery.

He admitted that “something miraculous would need to happen” for him to earn a ticket to France at the end of this year, but he is still only 27. “The next World Cup is the target. All I can control is to play well and put in big performances.

“Those guys ahead of me have been playing brilliantly but I’m getting closer. All I can do is control my own game. I think winning a trophy with a massive club playing in a very tough league would help get me noticed.”

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bob 573 days ago

I would imagine that some of the spectacular but inexperienced South African scrum halves we have seen in the URC would find it harder in the wet underfoot and windy conditions of Europe?

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Dawid 574 days ago

Braai is not Afrikaans for “BBQ”

BBQ is a style of cooking popular in the USA, and what the Brits call it if one poor sod stands outside grilling sausages and patties for the party inside.

The english for Braai is grill, thats how you cook at a Braai.

The event of a Braai is where the fire and the (eventual cooking) is the center of the party and all Saffas sit or stand around the grill hoping for the honour to hold the thongs whilst the braaimaster goes inside for a drink, or a call of nature.

The closest cultural comparison is the Argentinian asado.

Lets not confuse bbq and braai please.

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fl 14 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"fl's idea, if I can speak for him to speed things up, was for it to be semifinalists first, Champions Cup (any that somehow didn't make a league semi), then Challenge's semi finalists (which would most certainly have been outside their league semi's you'd think), then perhaps the quarter finalists of each in the same manner. I don't think he was suggesting whoever next performed best in Europe but didn't make those knockouts (like those round of 16 losers), I doubt that would ever happen."


That's not quite my idea.

For a 20 team champions cup I'd have 4 teams qualify from the previous years champions cup, and 4 from the previous years challenge cup. For a 16 team champions cup I'd have 3 teams qualify from the previous years champions cup, and 1 from the previous years challenge cup.


"The problem I mainly saw with his idea (much the same as you see, that league finish is a better indicator) is that you could have one of the best candidates lose in the quarters to the eventual champions, and so miss out for someone who got an easier ride, and also finished lower in the league, perhaps in their own league, and who you beat everytime."

If teams get a tough draw in the challenge cup quarters, they should have won more pool games and so got better seeding. My system is less about finding the best teams, and more about finding the teams who perform at the highest level in european competition.

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fl 51 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Would I'd be think"

Would I'd be think.


"Well that's one starting point for an error in your reasoning. Do you think that in regards to who should have a say in how it's setup in the future as well? Ie you would care what they think or what might be more fair for their teams (not saying your model doesn't allow them a chance)?"

Did you even read what you're replying to? I wasn't arguing for excluding south africa, I was pointing out that the idea of quantifying someone's fractional share of european rugby is entirely nonsensical. You're the one who was trying to do that.


"Yes, I was thinking about an automatic qualifier for a tier 2 side"

What proportion of european rugby are they though? Got to make sure those fractions match up! 😂


"Ultimately what I think would be better for t2 leagues would be a third comp underneath the top two tournemnts where they play a fair chunk of games, like double those two. So half a dozen euro teams along with the 2 SA and bottom bunch of premiership and top14, some Championship and div 2 sides thrown in."

I don't know if Championship sides want to be commuting to Georgia every other week.


"my thought was just to create a middle ground now which can sustain it until that time has come, were I thought yours is more likely to result in the constant change/manipulation it has been victim to"

a middle ground between the current system and a much worse system?

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fl 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Huh? You mean last in their (4 team) pools/regions? My idea was 6/5/4, 6 the max, for guarenteed spots, with a 20 team comp max, so upto 5 WCs (which you'd make/or would be theoretically impossible to go to one league (they'd likely be solely for its participants, say 'Wales', rather than URC specifically. Preferrably). I gave 3 WC ideas for a 18 team comp, so the max URC could have (with a member union or club/team, winning all of the 6N, and Champions and Challenge Cup) would be 9."


That's a lot of words to say that I was right. If (e.g.) Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.


"And the reason say another URC (for example) member would get the spot over the other team that won the Challenge Cup, would be because they were arguable better if they finished higher in the League."

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.


"It won't diminish desire to win the Challenge Cup, because that team may still be competing for that seed, and if theyre automatic qual anyway, it still might make them treat it more seriously"

This doesn't make sense. Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't. Under my system, teams will "compete for the seed" by winning the Challenge Cup, under yours they won't. If a team is automatically qualified anyway why on earth would that make them treat it more seriously?


"I'm promoting the idea of a scheme that never needs to be changed again"

So am I. I'm suggesting that places could be allocated according to a UEFA style points sytem, or according to a system where each league gets 1/4 of the spots, and the remaining 1/4 go to the best performing teams from the previous season in european competition.


"Yours will promote outcry as soon as England (or any other participant) fluctates. Were as it's hard to argue about a the basis of an equal share."

Currently there is an equal share, and you are arguing against it. My system would give each side the opportunity to achieve an equal share, but with more places given to sides and leagues that perform well. This wouldn't promote outcry, it would promote teams to take european competition more seriously. Teams that lose out because they did poorly the previous year wouldn't have any grounds to complain, they would be incentivised to try harder this time around.


"This new system should not be based on the assumption of last years results/performances continuing."

That's not the assumption I'm making. I don't think the teams that perform better should be given places in the competition because they will be the best performing teams next year, but because sport should be based on merit, and teams should be rewarded for performing well.


"I'm specifically promoting my idea because I think it will do exactly what you want, increase european rugyb's importance."

how?


"I won't say I've done anything compressive"

Compressive.

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JW 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Generally disagree with what? The possibility that they would get whitewashed, or the idea they shouldn't gain access until they're good enough?


I think the first is a fairly irrelevant view, decide on the second and then worry about the first. Personally I'd have had them in a third lvl comp with all the bottom dwellers of the leagues. I liked the idea of those league clubs resting their best players, and so being able to lift their standards in the league, though, so not against the idea that T2 sides go straight into Challenge Cup, but that will be a higher level with smaller comps and I think a bit too much for them (not having followed any of their games/performances mind you).

Because I don't think that having the possibility of a team finishing outside the quarter finals to qualify automatically will be a good idea. I'd rather have a team finishing 5th in their domestic league.

fl's idea, if I can speak for him to speed things up, was for it to be semifinalists first, Champions Cup (any that somehow didn't make a league semi), then Challenge's semi finalists (which would most certainly have been outside their league semi's you'd think), then perhaps the quarter finalists of each in the same manner. I don't think he was suggesting whoever next performed best in Europe but didn't make those knockouts (like those round of 16 losers), I doubt that would ever happen.


The problem I mainly saw with his idea (much the same as you see, that league finish is a better indicator) is that you could have one of the best candidates lose in the quarters to the eventual champions, and so miss out for someone who got an easier ride, and also finished lower in the league, perhaps in their own league, and who you beat everytime.

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JW 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Well I was mainly referring to my thinking about the split, which was essentially each /3 rounded up, but reliant on WCs to add buffer.


You may have been going for just a 16 team league ranking cup?


But yes, those were just ideas for how to select WCs, all very arbitrary but I think more interesting in ways than just going down a list (say like fl's) of who is next in line. Indeed in my reply to you I hinted at say the 'URC' WC spot actually being given to the Ireland pool and taken away from the Welsh pool.


It's easy to think that is excluding, and making it even harder on, a poor performing country, but this is all in context of a 18 or 20 team comp where URC (at least to those teams in the URC) got 6 places, which Wales has one side lingering around, and you'd expect should make. Imagine the spice in that 6N game with Italy, or any other of the URC members though! Everyone talks about SA joining the 6N, so not sure it will be a problem, but it would be a fairly minor one imo.


But that's a structure of the leagues were instead of thinking how to get in at the top, I started from the bottom and thought that it best those teams doing qualify for anything. Then I thought the two comps should be identical in structure. So that's were an even split comes in with creating numbers, and the 'UEFA' model you suggest using in some manner, I thought could be used for the WC's (5 in my 20 team comp) instead of those ideas of mine you pointed out.


I see Jones has waded in like his normal self when it comes to SH teams. One thing I really like about his idea is the name change to the two competitions, to Cup and Shield. Oh, and home and away matches.

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