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'I would love to play with Dupont' - Ardie Savea on Top 14 switch

Captains Antoine Dupont of France and Ardie Savea of New Zealand pose for a photograph with Referee Jaco Peyper at the Asahi Coin Toss prior to the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Pool A match between France and New Zealand at Stade de France on September 08, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Henry Browne - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

All Blacks star Ardie Savea has expressed a keen interest in the possibility of playing alongside French scrum-half Antoine Dupont.

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The 30-year-old back row – who is currently playing for Kobelco Kobe Steelers in Japan Rugby League One – shared his admiration for Dupont and his openness to joining a team in the French Top 14 league in an exclusive interview with Jim Hamilton on RugbyPass TV.

In addition to discussing a potential switch to French rugby, Savea voiced his belief that New Zealand players should have the flexibility to play in overseas leagues while still being eligible to represent the All Blacks.

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“My thing is if you’re a Kiwi and you’re playing across the world, you should be allowed to [play for the All Blacks]. I know there’s rules that are set in place for a reason, but I think to be able to slowly evolve and change, for players to play somewhere else and still be available… I think that should be looked at.

“You look at Jordie Barrett going to Leinster, Irish territory. That’s something that’s never been done but hopefully it just slowly, gradually evolves in that kind of way – us playing here and still be available for the All Blacks. I think it would be good. South Africa have proven it. They’ve got boys playing here in this competition [Japan Rugby League One] and they go and become World Champions.

“I don’t think there’s one way of doing it but we’ve got to look are keeping on evolving.”

While Savea made it clear that he has not received any concrete offers from French clubs, the idea of playing in the Top 14 is an appealing one for the explosive No.8.

“That’s something I loved about playing the World Cup in France, the atmosphere, the fans, the walkout. It’s pitch black in the stadium, techno lights… That’s why we play the game. The nerves, the excitement, I loved that. That’s why I kind of struggle here [in Japan], it’s really quiet, no cheering, it’s just [makes hand clapping gesture].

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“I thought about it bro, I thought about it,” said Savea. “I’ve had no proper offers but I would love to play with Dupont one day… or Ntamack. Yeah, I don’t know.”

As one of the best rugby union players in the world, Savea could theoretically have any club he wanted, provided the money was right. With the 2027 Rugby World Cup three years away and the NZR currently operating rules that favour Japan for sanctioned sabbaticals, a decision to leave the cosy fold of NZ rugby would be a big one.

Whether the NZR would take Savea back following a stint in France to let him ‘evolve’ ahead of the sport’s flagship competition remains to be seen, and he’d likely have no guarantees despite his abundant talent. What’s clear is that the desire is there for a move, even if it ultimately comes after Rugby World Cup 2023.

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Nickers 181 days ago

It’s clear at this point Ardie does not have another World Cup cycle in him. Unless he is being misrepresented in the interviews all he has spoken about since the World Cup is playing for anyone other than the ABs.

Don’t expect to see him re-sign with NZR when his next contract expires in 2025.

If he wasn’t already, Scott Barrett is an absolute shoe-in for captain now.

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JW 9 minutes ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Where? I remember saying "unders"? The LNR was formed by the FFR, if I said that in a way that meant the 'pro' side of the game didn't have an equal representation/say as the 'amateur' side (FFR remit) that was not my intent.


But also, as it is the governing body, it also has more responsibility. As long as WR looks at FFR as the running body for rugby in France, that 'power' will remain. If the LNR refuses to govern their clubs use of players to enable a request by FFR (from WR) to ensure it's players are able to compete in International rugby takes place they will simply remove their participation. If the players complain to the France's body, either of their health and safety concerns (through playing too many 'minutes' etc) or that they are not allowed to be part in matches of national interest, my understanding is action can be taken against the LNR like it could be any other body/business. I see where you're coming from now re EPCR and the shake up they gave it, yes, that wasn't meant to be a separate statement to say that FFR can threaten them with EPCR expulsion by itself, simply that it would be a strong repercussion for those teams to be removed (no one would want them after the above).


You keep bringing up these other things I cannot understand why. Again, do you think if the LNR were not acting responsibly they would be able to get away with whatever they want (the attitude of these posters saying "they pay the players")? You may deem what theyre doing currently as being irresponsible but most do not. Countries like New Zealand have not even complained about it because they've never had it different, never got things like windfall TV contracts from France, so they can't complain because theyre not missing out on anything. Sure, if the French kept doing things like withholding million dollar game payments, or causing millions of dollars of devaluation in rights, they these things I'm outlining would be taking place. That's not the case currently however, no one here really cares what the French do. It's upto them to sort themselves out if they're not happy. Now, that said, if they did make it obvious to World Rugby that they were never going to send the French side away (like they possibly did stating their intent to exclude 20 targeted players) in July, well then they would simply be given XV fixtures against tier 2 sides during that window and the FFR would need to do things like the 50/50 revenue split to get big teams visiting in Nov.

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