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‘Don’t live in the past’: Ian Foster dismisses All Blacks’ semi-final favouritism

New Zealand head coach Ian Foster before the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Quarter Final match between Ireland and New Zealand at Stade de France on October 14, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Lionel Hahn/Getty Images)

Many consider the All Blacks to be overwhelming favourites ahead of their Rugby World Cup semi-final against Los Pumas, but don’t tell coach Ian Foster that.

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Foster told reporters earlier this week that they’ve “never heard us say we’re favourites” ahead of the southern hemisphere showdown, and the coach doubled down on that belief on the eve of the Test.

New Zealand have played Argentina 36 times in the Test arena and have won 33. The All Blacks have a history of success against Los Pumas but history doesn’t mean much come Friday night.

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Argentina shocked the rugby world with their first-ever win over the New Zealanders a few years ago, and they emerged victorious again in Christchurch 14 months ago, but they’re widely considered the underdogs.

This is the All Blacks at a Rugby World Cup after all. When the Webb Ellis Cup is up for grabs the New Zealanders embody the form of a roaring beast that often proves tough to tame.

But this is a semi-final and both teams deserve to be here. Once a ball is kicked and tries are scored anything can happen, and coach Foster knows that. About 32 hours before the Test, Foster refused to acknowledge the All Blacks as favourites once again.

“There are two teams in the semi-final. Anyone can win. That’s the mindset both teams have got,” Foster told reporters on Thursday.

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“We are massively respectful of Argentina. We don’t live in the past. Rugby World Cup tournaments are about the present.

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“If you go into a World Cup semi-final thinking the past is going to happen again, you have got problems.

“We are just excited about being there ourselves. Been really impressed with Argentina, how they’ve carried their campaign. It was a great victory against Wales where they showed their tenacity. We know they’ve got that as we play them regularly and they’ve been difficult opponents, so there will be no surprises.”

The All Blacks are coming off a  thrilling 28-24 win over Ireland. Captain Sam Cane and fellow-backrower Ardie Savea were among the standouts as the New Zealanders kept their World Cup dreams alive in France.

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As for Argentina, they’re coming off a tough win of their own against Warren Gatland’s Wales in Marseille. Veteran Nicolas Sanchez scored a late try as Los Pumas booked their spot in the semis.

“It’s different as they have different jerseys on, it’s not different from the physical side. We both know how tough each other is,” Foster added.

“They are a very physical, combative team particularly at the breakdown and particularly the way they tackle with the likes of [flanker Marcos] Kremer. He has had a great tournament.

“It’s the same as we had in the quarter-final. We are not going in with any different mindset in that space. The moral of the story is it’s a semi-final and we know that we are facing a team that will scrap for every little bit of possession. We are going to have to be at our best.”.”

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Turlough 398 days ago

Foster told reporters earlier this week that they’ve “never heard us say we’re favourites”.

Although NZ are bookies favourites (and it’s not a crime to say that fact) Foster hasn’t heard some Kiwi supporters on this platform saying that NZ will put 40+ on Argentina and be fresh for the final after the “warm up game”.

The veneer of “humility” running thin.

Go Pumas!!

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NB 17 minutes ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Nice bit if revisioniusm but that's all it is JW.


For your further education, I found the following breakdown of one prominent club's finances in the Top 14 [Clermont].


For Clermont (budget of €29.5 million for 2021-2022) :

- 20% from ticket sales

- 17% from the LNR (includes TV Rights, compensation from producing french internationals and other minor stuff)

- 5% from public collectivities (so you're looking at funds from the city of Clermont, the department of Puy-De-Dôme and the region Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes)

- 4% from merchandising and events

- 3% from miscellaneous

- 51 % from sponsorships and partnerships. They've got 550 different partners. The main ones are CGI, Groupama, Limagrain/Jacquet, Omerin, Paprec, Renault and of course Michelin (not surprising since they're actually the founders of the club).


As you can see nothing comes from the FFR at all. The LNR is a separate entitiy to FFR and their aims frequently do not accord.


It is also why the European breakaway plotted by LNR and PR back in 2013 had nothing to do with the governing bodies of either England or France - and it most certainly did not have their blessing https://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/15331030/jean-pierre-lux-anglo-french-cup-detrimental-european-rugby


And from the horse's mouth [ex AB skipper Sean Fitapatrick] about the comp between Top 14 and Super Rugby:


"The Top 14 in France is probably the best rugby competition in the world at the moment, purely for the week-in, week-out.”


“I think the quality of players. They are bigger, they are faster, they are stronger. Which then carries on into the international game.”

Take it from someone who knows JW😅

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