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‘Don’t live in the past’: Ian Foster dismisses All Blacks’ semi-final favouritism

New Zealand head coach Ian Foster before the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Quarter Final match between Ireland and New Zealand at Stade de France on October 14, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Lionel Hahn/Getty Images)

Many consider the All Blacks to be overwhelming favourites ahead of their Rugby World Cup semi-final against Los Pumas, but don’t tell coach Ian Foster that.

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Foster told reporters earlier this week that they’ve “never heard us say we’re favourites” ahead of the southern hemisphere showdown, and the coach doubled down on that belief on the eve of the Test.

New Zealand have played Argentina 36 times in the Test arena and have won 33. The All Blacks have a history of success against Los Pumas but history doesn’t mean much come Friday night.

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Argentina shocked the rugby world with their first-ever win over the New Zealanders a few years ago, and they emerged victorious again in Christchurch 14 months ago, but they’re widely considered the underdogs.

This is the All Blacks at a Rugby World Cup after all. When the Webb Ellis Cup is up for grabs the New Zealanders embody the form of a roaring beast that often proves tough to tame.

But this is a semi-final and both teams deserve to be here. Once a ball is kicked and tries are scored anything can happen, and coach Foster knows that. About 32 hours before the Test, Foster refused to acknowledge the All Blacks as favourites once again.

“There are two teams in the semi-final. Anyone can win. That’s the mindset both teams have got,” Foster told reporters on Thursday.

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“We are massively respectful of Argentina. We don’t live in the past. Rugby World Cup tournaments are about the present.

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“If you go into a World Cup semi-final thinking the past is going to happen again, you have got problems.

“We are just excited about being there ourselves. Been really impressed with Argentina, how they’ve carried their campaign. It was a great victory against Wales where they showed their tenacity. We know they’ve got that as we play them regularly and they’ve been difficult opponents, so there will be no surprises.”

The All Blacks are coming off a  thrilling 28-24 win over Ireland. Captain Sam Cane and fellow-backrower Ardie Savea were among the standouts as the New Zealanders kept their World Cup dreams alive in France.

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As for Argentina, they’re coming off a tough win of their own against Warren Gatland’s Wales in Marseille. Veteran Nicolas Sanchez scored a late try as Los Pumas booked their spot in the semis.

“It’s different as they have different jerseys on, it’s not different from the physical side. We both know how tough each other is,” Foster added.

“They are a very physical, combative team particularly at the breakdown and particularly the way they tackle with the likes of [flanker Marcos] Kremer. He has had a great tournament.

“It’s the same as we had in the quarter-final. We are not going in with any different mindset in that space. The moral of the story is it’s a semi-final and we know that we are facing a team that will scrap for every little bit of possession. We are going to have to be at our best.”.”

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Turlough 429 days ago

Foster told reporters earlier this week that they’ve “never heard us say we’re favourites”.

Although NZ are bookies favourites (and it’s not a crime to say that fact) Foster hasn’t heard some Kiwi supporters on this platform saying that NZ will put 40+ on Argentina and be fresh for the final after the “warm up game”.

The veneer of “humility” running thin.

Go Pumas!!

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JW 27 minutes ago
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I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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