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'Publicly I said I didn't care': Ian Foster reveals revenge motivation in Ireland quarter-final

New Zealand's head coach Ian Foster (C) shakes hands with Ireland's fly-half Jonathan Sexton (L) after the France 2023 Rugby World Cup quarter-final match between Ireland and New Zealand at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, on the outskirts of Paris, on October 14, 2023. (Photo by FRANCK FIFE / AFP) (Photo by FRANCK FIFE/AFP via Getty Images)

Former All Blacks head coach Ian Foster has revealed that his preferred quarter-final opponent at last year’s Rugby World Cup was in fact Ireland.

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With the Rugby World Cup draw putting the top four sides on the same side of the draw, it was known for a long time that the All Blacks would meet either South Africa, Ireland or Scotland in a high stakes quarter-final.

The 2022 series defeat to Ireland which put heavy scrutiny on the All Blacks and the head coach himself built up a well of emotion for the squad, which led to a motivation to pay Ireland back for the hurt.

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Foster admitted that “deep down” he wanted the Ireland match-up as the squad took a vengeful mindset towards the game.

“I wanted to play Ireland,” Foster said on All Blacks: In Their Own Words 2.

“I was always asked who I wanted to play [Ireland or South Africa], and publicly I said I didn’t care. But deep down, I wanted to play Ireland [in the quarter-final].

“I think the public were nervous, I think they were smart enough to know what the quarter-final was going to be like.”

In a pre-match All Blacks leadership meeting before the quarter-final, halfback Aaron Smith revealed to the group that he had been “waiting 18 months” to play this team on the big stage to pay them back.

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“We’d planned all year on how we could stop Ireland the best we could,” Smith said.

“The Irish were very confident, you could tell, but they had every right to be.”

Ireland entered the game on a 17 game winning streak and held the number one world ranking at time.

Captain Sam Cane, who also came under immense scrutiny following the 2-1 series defeat, shared how he felt about Ireland.

“Although we don’t talk about these things as a team, we don’t talk about Ireland, in the back of your mind, you remember it,” Cane said.

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“We remember the feeling of losing in Dunedin, in Wellington, you remember those feelings. We’ve let New Zealand down, we’ve let the jersey down.”

 

 

 

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SadersMan 191 days ago

Blah blah blah. The Foster/Cane era was rubbish. The fact that Argentina walloped us twice about sums it up. Even with the late recruitment of Jase Ryan & Joe Schmidt, Foster still managed to achieve the worst record for ABs coaches, who coached the ABs for at least 30 tests & at least 40 tests. Thank goodness it’s over.

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Nickers 193 days ago

Although they were a super tough opponent, in choosing between them and France I think everyone would have preferred to play Ireland. They obviously had a point to prove against them, but they were also far more familiar with that team. NZ had played France once in the past 5 years, and many people in the team would never have played them or any of their players before, and certainly not the latest incarnation.

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Easy_Duzz-it 193 days ago

Looking back it now I have to laugh 😂. Because how do you lose to Ian fosters All Blacks . Imagine being number 1 in the world and losing to Ian fosters All Blacks .

The Irish coach just had to rest the core players and get them as fresh as possible . If Ireland beat the All Blacks up front , they make it past the quarter finals for the first time in there history .

But for some reason the win streak was that important they went to the quarterfinals undefeated and lost to Ian fosters All Blacks 🤣 .

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Jon 193 days ago

I still don’t know how they won the first game in that series. Can Irish fans tell, from time and replays, what happened in that QF?

No one answers those sorts of arsenine questions honestly.

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johnz 194 days ago

Hopefully the next coach will realise the importance of preparing for more than just one team. While being motivated by something more sustainable than revenge would also be a plus.

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MattJH 194 days ago

I don’t get why Foster would say he didn’t care when he actually did.
A few of the All Blacks publicly stated they wanted to play Ireland in the quarter final before the game.
Ireland had beaten them at home, were ranked No.1, and were on a 17 game winning streak.
Of course they preferred to play Ireland.

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Rob 194 days ago

You’d swear they won the World Cup

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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