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'I'll repeat it 100 times': Eddie Jones' ageist selection policy for Japan unhealthy

Japan's new head rugby coach Eddie Jones speaks during a press conference to speak about the new squad for upcoming matches in Tokyo on May 30, 2024. (Photo by Richard A. Brooks / AFP) (Photo by RICHARD A. BROOKS/Afp/AFP via Getty Images)

It was a moment when the commander, seen after a long time, revealed his emotions.

On September 21 at Hanazono Rugby Stadium, Japan’s national team faced Fiji in the final of the Pacific Nations Cup and lost 17-41.

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Head coach Eddie Jones admitted defeat during the post-match press conference, saying, “I don’t think there’s one area in the game we’ve won.”

In the latter half of the conference, a reporter asked, “Will you call veteran players like Michael Leitch for the squad in October?”

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This was his response: “Japan had an old squad at the last World Cup, so my job is to bring a new squad through.

“You can keep asking me, but I’m telling you, we’ve got to generate a new generation of rugby players in Japan that can go through the next two World Cups.

“We can’t keep re-jigging old players and keeping them in the squad. We need fresh talent in Japan. I apologize if it doesn’t suit your philosophy on selection, but if I have to repeat it 100 times, I’ll repeat it 100 times.”

He let it all out at once. It was the first time Jones had shown such emotion to the Japanese media since June 11, 2012, when he first took charge of Japan and faced the French Barbarians.

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In that match, Japan lost 21-40, and in the post-match press conference, Jones was asked about player selection. “I wanted to develop Japanese players. If my selection was wrong, I’ll resign immediately,” he said in such a fierce manner that the captain sitting next to him had his eyes well up with tears. The scene flashed back during this press conference. His sharp retort, “You don’t like young players?” was a reaction to being hit where it hurts.

“You need a total of 500 caps.”

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Jones introduced this standard of evaluating a team by its total number of caps for Japan when he first took over in 2012. The Japan national team’s total caps for the PNC final against Fiji stood at 224. Top teams around the world, like South Africa, often exceed 1,000 caps. While it’s understandable that Jones wants to give experience to new players, key players who started the Fiji match—such as lock Warner Dearns, flanker Amato Fakatava, fly-half Lee Seung-Sin, center Dylan Riley, and winger Tomoki Osada—had all played in last year’s World Cup. It isn’t entirely accurate to summarize them all under the term “old squad.”

Every country faces the challenge of transitioning between generations. When Jones first took over in 2012, it took two years before he started rejuvenating the team, giving the captaincy to Michael Leitch. This time, however, he’s obviously in a rush. In the spring and summer campaigns alone, 17 players earned their first Japan caps.

Admittedly, some talented players have emerged. Although not part of the PNC squad, 20-year-old Waseda University sophomore fullback Yoshitaka Yazaki’s running game has reminded many of Kenki Fukuoka, who shone in the 2019 World Cup held in Japan. Fukuoka, too, was selected by Jones at the age of 19. Jones has an eye for spotting young talent like no other.

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Still, the current squad cannot be called the strongest Japan has to offer. There are mid-career players in Japan with the skills to be selected for the national team. However, Jones’s ultimate goal of reaching the semi-finals of the 2027 World Cup means that these players are being excluded simply due to their age.

This really doesn’t seem like a healthy system for the national team. Japan won their PNC matches against Canada, Samoa, and the United States, but they couldn’t make a dent against Fiji. Jones stated, “Based on results, we’re not where we need to be, but based on the effort of the players, we’re probably ahead of where I thought we’d be.”

Japan’s next match will be against the All Blacks on October 26 in Yokohama, with Jones remarking, “It’s what we’ve got to do to beat New Zealand now, so that’s the only thing I’m focusing on.”

The squad for the autumn campaign will be announced soon. It’s unlikely that university players like Yazaki will be included, as the university rugby season will be in its crucial stages in November.

If more university players are selected for the squad announced next spring, it wouldn’t be surprising given Jones’s recent comments. However, these players won’t be available for the autumn tours in the northern hemisphere, as they’ll still have their university seasons to complete in June, with the World Cup looming the following year. This leaves them only the June home test matches to gain experience.

This season’s League One will start on December 21, the latest start date in history. This delay is to prioritize the Japan national team, who will face England on November 23, and to consider player welfare. Supporting the national team is a key pillar of League One’s mission.

In the post-final press conference, Jones summarized the tournament, saying, “I think the team got stronger under Haru’s (Tatekawa) leadership.”

Tatekawa is now 34 years old and was part of Jones’s squad for the 2015 World Cup but was not included in the squads for 2019 or 2023. Jones, who denies relying on an “old squad,” still faces the reality that his cherished disciple from that squad played a key role in developing the team.

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Red and White Dynamight 45 days ago

How did that selection policy work out for Wallabies at RWC'23 ?

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RC 45 days ago

He could start by selecting japanese players and not every single kiwi, islander, south african and australian that plays in Japan...

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JW 45 days ago

Yeah, plenty of good 12's that are younger than Riley or the other aussie.

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DC 45 days ago

well maybe they need to bring new coaches as well to coach japan eddie isnt doing the best in japan this year

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Zoons 45 days ago

He was a bad selection, after the mess he left behind in Australia, but that was also the ARU fault there too. So I would have thought that Japan would have taken that into consideration before making Eddie Jones head coach in Japan? Why do you think England got rid of him??

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MattJH 45 days ago

You got this, Eddie. Still one of the finest minds to ever coach the game.

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Cosmo 45 days ago

EJ is a muppet, times 100

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JW 46 days ago

Give it to him. He's a drongo, his main concern right now should be the next RWC ranking (taken this year). If his team drops out of the top 12 because of his decisions you're basically giving up any hope of going past the pool stages in 2027. Which would be a very poor result for the current talent available to Japan (much like his results with Australia).

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JW 2 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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