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'I'm getting a bit nerdy here': Ali Price names his favourite No9 and it's not Conor Murray, his Lions rival who is currently nursing a pre-tour injury

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Lions pick Ali Price has named who he thinks is the top No9 in the world at the moment – and it’s not Conor Murray, a 2021 tour rival for the starting jersey who is currently nursing an injury and won’t play for Munster in this weekend’s Rainbow Cup. 

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The 32-year-old Murray, who has played in five of the last six Lions Test matches, was chosen earlier this month with Price and Gareth Davies of Wales as the scrum-halves Warren Gatland will take with him to South Africa.

Gatland got to meet up with his newly picked squad in London on Tuesday for a run-through of what lies ahead in a schedule where the Lions will assemble in Jersey next month before their eve-of-tour-departure match against Japan at Murrayfield.

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Scotland’s Ali Price on the moment he learned that he was a 2021 Lions pick

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Scotland’s Ali Price on the moment he learned that he was a 2021 Lions pick

The coach will now be watching the Murray situation with interest after the player’s Irish province issued a medical bulletin that read: “Conor Murray has a low-grade leg injury following the Connacht match (on May 14) and is currently rehabilitating. The scrum-half is unavailable for the Cardiff game but is expected to be available for the following round (away to Zebre on June 11).”

If fit, Murray will link up with the Lions as the probable first choice but the Ireland player isn’t the No9 that Price considers as the world’s best at the moment. Speaking on the latest edition of RugbyPass All Access about the position he has been capped in by Scotland on 42 occasions, the 28-year-old said: “Aaron Smith for me is still the top guy. 

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“As a No9, it is a given your passing and kicking have to generally be on the money and just his energy, his sort of one to 80 minutes he keeps going at a high tempo and very rarely makes bad decisions, how he reads the game. There is a lot of technical stuff in that – I’m getting a bit nerdy here – he is sort of scanning when he approaches the ball, scanning the defensive line, whether a team has over-folded on the negative side of the ruck.

“Little things like that you could coast through a game and not even notice, but if you really want to get into the nitty-gritty stuff, you could dissect his performance I’m sure for hours. I find it fascinating. Antoine Dupont has been incredible for France over the last couple of years. As a nine there are many ways to play the game and that is what they all show – there is no right or wrong way to go about it.”

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GrahamVF 21 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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