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Kaino names 2023 World Cup favourites and it isn't the All Blacks

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Double World Cup winner Jerome Kaino has named his favourites for the 2023 World Cup – and it’s not the All Blacks even though he believes that keeping Ian Foster on as the head coach for the finals is the right call. The back-rower was an integral part of his country’s triumphs in 2011 and 2015 but he isn’t backing them to deliver the title next year despite the vote of confidence given to Foster earlier this week by the NZR.

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Now 39, Kaino called time on his playing career at the end of the 2020/21 season in France which finished with Toulouse crowned European and Top 14 champions. He has since taken up an assistant coach role at Toulouse, coaching skills at a club where he feels the standards demanded are similar to the All Blacks.

Interviewed by Midi Olympique, the French rugby newspaper, ahead of the new Top 14 season, Kaino compared the Toulouse set-up with what he experienced during his 81-cap Test career with the All Blacks. “Yes, the two are very similar, there are real similarities,” he said.

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“They share a rich history and a strong winning culture. These days they are under tremendous pressure regarding results and the game. There are so many expectations to meet for these two teams every year. The requirement must be maximum. It creates the same atmosphere. The All Blacks, like Toulouse, are at the top of the mountain and everyone wants them to make fall.

“The current (All Blacks) results are not in our standards but I am not worried about all that. I know the talent of the players. I know Ian Foster, too. I played for a long time under his orders and I know he is a very good technician. Sam Cane, too, is a very good captain.

“The players must be disappointed but I know they will find solutions to bounce back. The period is tough for the fans but I think the Blacks will come out stronger. Maybe even from the World Cup,” he said, crossing his fingers and adding his delight that Foster has kept his job. “Yes, I just saw that. I am very happy for him.”

Asked to pick a favourite for the 2023 World Cup in France, Kaino chose the host country as the likely winner ahead of the All Blacks. “Yes, France are favourites in my eyes. Through the rugby they play, the confidence they have stored away with their recent successes and the fact that the competition is taking place on their soil, the French supporters have a great capacity to carry their team.”

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The French half-backs, former teammates that he now coaches at Toulouse, also got a favourable mention. “Antoine Dupont is incredible. I admire his calmness under pressure. It’s the same for Romain Ntamack. They are so serene. Whether it’s a Top 14 final or a casual encounter, they have the same approach. And they are very professional. Each week, they seek to progress.”

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GrahamVF 823 days ago

I love the fact that SA are not even considered in the Kiwi fans predictions. Think back to a year before the last WC. The Boksxwere not even on the horizon. Write both the AB’s and the Boks off at your predilection.

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Jamie 2 824 days ago

A year is a long time in international rugby but you would think that playing at home France has the best advantage of becoming the new world rugby champions, but all it takes is to fail once in a semi-final game because the team didn't do their homework properly.
Game analysis could be the real winner of the RWC as the All Blacks are learning. Probably for the first time the level of rugby competition to be faced in the 2023 RWC is going to be a real challenge for all the top tier teams, so no opposition side can be taken lightly, even in the preliminary pool games.
My pick for the RWC winner probably should be left closer to the start of the competition but I wouldn't rule out either Ireland or England reaching the grand final, France may lose to either of these two teams.

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karin 824 days ago

Rugby World cup final 2023 France vs All Blacks .. All Blacks Win

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Why is Joe Schmidt the best option for Australia? (LONG READ)


An essay for @OJohn with love from South Africa.


OJohn keeps banging on about kiwis and Saffers and everyone else seeking to undermine and bring down Australian rugby… Blah, Blah, Blah. It’s boring and not worth responding too 99 days out of 100.


He misses the point completely that Australians either are or are not the masters of their own destiny. So to blame anyone else but themselves for what the state of Australian rugby is in - is hypocritical.


But recently, Australia has shown signs of life. Personally, I always believed they would be back at some point. At the beginning of this year I predicted that the wallabies would bounce back this year. I predicted that they would overtake England in the world rankings. I am predicting that they could finish second in the RC, could win the Lions series and could make it to a RWC final at home.


I tend to get ahead of myself when I’m excited... Ask my wife. But forgive me for getting excited about the Wallabies looking good! Is it so bad?


Like OJohn, I believe that Australia’s lands abound with natures gifts, including athletic specimens across any sporting code the Aussies compete in. It’s one of the reasons most of us don’t like Aussies. They win sh1t. Regularly. And look smug when they do...


But back to OJohn. And his banging on about the need for Australia to have an Australian coach. Here are a few highlights of his argument:


Several times I've given a list of half a dozen Australian coaches who would be more Australian than Schmidt and just as successful.

Tell me which Australian coaches would be acceptable to coach the All Blacks ......?

Because South Africans and Kiwis and Welshmen and Scotsman are all s.... scared that if an immensely talented and athletic team like Australia is ever able to harness nationalistic Australian passion with an Australian coach, you'll all be s.c.r.e.w.e.d.


And then finally – the list of 6 🥴:


Ewen McKenzie, Less Kiss, Stephen Larkham, Jim McKay, David Nucifora, Scott Wisenthal, Ben Mowen, Rod Kafer, Mick Byrne, John Manetti, Jason Gilmore, Dan McKellar.

Plus, a special request:


Keep in mind Rod MacQueen never won a Super Rugby title before he was appointed Wallaby coach but he ended up the greatest rugby coach the world has ever seen. Better than Erasmus even. Who is probably the next best.

Right. I don’t care about the tinfoil hat theories. I want to assess OJohn’s list and determine whether any of them fit the mold of a Rod Macqueen.

 

Like Rod Macqueen the following world cup winning coaches never won a Super Rugby Title:


·       David Kirk, 1987 (17 appearances for New Zealand)

·       Kitch Kristie, 1995

·       Rod Macqueen, 1999

·       Clive Woodward, 2003 (21 Appearance for England)

·       Jake White, 2007 (School Teacher)

·       Graham Henry, 2011 (School Teacher)

·       Steve Hansen, 2015 (Policeman)

·       Rassie Erasmus, 2019 (36 Appearances for South Africa)

·       Jacques Nienaber, 2023 (Physiotherapist).


I couldn't find out what Rod or Kitch did other than coach.


The only coach who has won a Super title and a World Cup?

·       Bob Dwyer, 1991 (A Tahs man wouldn’t you know!)


In fact coaches that have won super rugby titles have not won world cups. Robbie Deans. Heyneke Meyer to name just two.


I know I’m being childish, but I needed to bring this list in somehow because it’s quite obvious that whatever these coaches did before they became international level coaches is largely immaterial. Or is it?


Interestingly Ewan McKenzie (A Tah Man!) has won a Super title. And despite being a Tah Man made it into OJohn’s list. That’s two strikes for Ewan Mckenzie based on OJohn’s criteria so far. Not to mention his 50% win rate as head coach of the Wallabies between 2013 and 2014 (and the laundry list of off the field fcuk ups that swirled around the team at the time).


So Ewan is out.


I find it interesting that, as we speak, eight out of the ten top ranked men’s teams are coached by former international players:

1.      South Africa, Rassie Erasmus (36 appearances for South Africa)

2.      Ireland, Andy Farrell (8 appearances for England)

3.      New Zealand, Scott Robertson (23 appearances for New Zealan)

4.      France, Fabien Galthie (64 appearances for France)

5.      Argentina, Felipe Contemponi (87 appearances for Argentina)

6.      Scotland, Gregor Townsend (82 appearances for Scotland)

7.      England, Steve Borthwick (57 appearances for England)

8.      Australia, Joe Schmidt (School Teacher)

9.      Fiji, Michael Byrne (Aussie Rules Player)

10.  Italy, Gonzalo Quesada (38 appearances for Argentina).


It would appear as though we have entered an era where successful international coaches, largely, have played rugby at international level in the professional era. Or are ex school teachers. Much like Jake White and Graham Henry! Or a policeman.

 

Back to OJohn’s List. That leaves us with:


·       Less Kiss, (I like the look of)

·       Stephen Larkham, (I like the look of)

·       Jim McKay, (Very little to write home about)

·       David Nucifora, (Too old)

·       Scott Wisenthal, (I literally can’t find anything on him on the Google).

·       Ben Mowen, (Too young, no coaching experience)

·       Rod Kafer, (No coaching experience)

·       Mick Byrne, (He’s coaching the Fijians, Aussie rules!)

·       John Manetti, (Can’t find him on the google)

·       Jason Gilmore, (Seems to be working through the ranks, coaching Wallabies A)

·       Dan McKellar, (Not much to write home about, but could be an option).


Applying some logic, I would say the following are viable options based on age, experience in coaching AND the fact that they have played rugby for Australia in the professional era:

·       Less Kiss, (I like the look of)

·       Stephen Larkham, (I like the look of)

·       Jason Gilmore, (Seems to be working through the ranks, coaching Wallabies A)


After having done all this research, I think it’s fair to say that none of these three have the same pedigree as Joe Schmidt, the teacher. Who took a sh1tty Ireland team to no.1. Won a few 6 Nations and helped get the All Blacks to a world cup final in 2023.


Joe’s the best option for now. But if Kiss, Larkham and Gilmore are the business for the future for Australia get them in now as assistants to Joe and stop moaning!!


Errors and Ommissions Excepted. Mispelling of names is OJohn's fault.

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