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'Initially my reaction was I don't really know what utility is'

Dylan Pietsch of the Waratahs dives over to score a try during the Super Rugby Pacific Quarter Final match between Blues and Waratahs at Eden Park, on June 09, 2023, in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Josh Kemeny and Dylan Pietsch were as surprised as anyone to be listed as utilities in the Wallabies squad to tackle South Africa but will happily wear any number on their back if it means a Test debut.

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Coach Eddie Jones talked up the versatility of his players chosen for next month’s Pretoria Test, saying he wants “multi-dimensional” men in this year’s Rugby World Cup squad.

For Pietsch it’s not a stretch, with the 25-year-old saying he was always a flanker before being turned into a winger on joining the NSW Waratahs two years ago from the Olympic Sevens program.

“I’ve been a backrower my whole life, so it’s something I’m pretty comfortable with,” said Pietsch, who is aiming to be the 15th Indigenous Wallaby, and the first since 2010.

“Initially my reaction was ‘I don’t really know what utility is’, but I don’t really care because I was so happy I’m in the squad. Since I was a little kid I’ve always wanted to be Wallaby.

“Eddie sat me down and said I was an option and to get my head around the line-outs.”

Jones has said Kemeny, normally a backrower, could be used on a wing if needed. The 194cm, 110kg Kemeny has never played as a winger, but has always topped the Melbourne Rebels forwards in fitness drills.

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Sporting a black eye as he fronted the media on Monday, he didn’t quite have the look of an outside back.

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“I was probably even more confused than Dyl (Pietsch) because we played back-row together a few years ago, so he’s more versed in that position than I am out on the wing,” said the 24-year-old, originally from Sydney.

“It’s news to me but to be part of the squad and add impact wherever I can is what I want to do.

“It’s not necessarily something that I’ve done as a junior or that I’ve been chasing to do, but if it’s going to add some value to the team I’m happy to do that.”

The pair were former teammates in a NSW schoolboys side in year 12, with Pietsch at open-side flanker and Kemeny blind-side.

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While Kemeny was included in a Wallabies training squad in 2021 by then coach Dave Rennie, he didn’t feel time was on his side ahead of this year’s Rugby World Cup.

He suffered a serious knee in July that year, which meant 16 months out following complications from a tendon graft after surgery.

Kemeny started the 2023 Super Rugby Pacific season in round one but spent three weeks on the sidelines from round 11 with a dangerous tackle ban.

“It was a long rehab,” Kemeny said. “To find some confidence and stay on the park this year was my goal and everything that’s come with it has been a massive bonus.

“I was absolutely gutted for Rebels (when suspended) but 100 per cent I was gutted (for myself). I thought I’d really knocked myself back a few pegs by missing those weeks but I just made sure that when I got back out there for the last few games I put my best foot forward.

“To get my foot through the door and my name on the list, that was all I cared about and I’m just going to work from there.”

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Tom 5 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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