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Andy Goode: My British & Irish Lions XV a year out

Farrell's evident relish for the Lions challenge came across during his unveiling as head coach (Photo David Rogers/Getty Images)

It’s now less than a year to go until the British & Irish Lions face Australia in the first Test of the 2025 tour in Brisbane and, while there’s still a season for players to play their way in, the starting XV is starting to take shape and as many Scots as Englishmen are in it for me.

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Clearly, the Test team will be dominated by the Irish and not just because Andy Farrell is head coach, they are the reigning Six Nations champions and have just beaten the world champions away from home to boot.

I think the men in green will contribute over half of the run-on side but, despite the fact they didn’t have any Lions Test starters at all between 2001 and 2021, Scotland could have as many representatives as anyone else.

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Finn Russell has to start at fly half with his box of tricks and increased maturity now at the ripe old age of 31. Marcus Smith is his closest challenger and has a similarly impressive blend of flair and game management skills but he’s giving up quite a bit in terms of experience compared to Russell.

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Toulouse’s French fly-half Thomas Ramos (R) celebrates with Toulouse’s Scottish full-back Blair Kinghorn (C) after a try during the French Top 14 rugby union final match between the Stade Toulousain (Toulouse) and Union Bordeaux-Begles (UBB) at the Velodrome Stadium in Marseille, southeastern france, on June 28, 2024. (Photo by Christophe SIMON / AFP) (Photo by CHRISTOPHE SIMON/AFP via Getty Images)

Blair Kinghorn has been an absolute revelation since joining Toulouse in the middle of last season and has won all of the 14 games he’s played for his new club, lifting the Champions Cup and Top 14 trophies in the process, so he’d be my full back.

Hugo Keenan has probably been the standout performer in that position going back a bit further but he’s taken a brief break to play sevens and Kinghorn has gone to another level since moving to France and his physical stature and relationship with Russell count in his favour.

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The third Scot I’d have in my side would be Sione Tuipulotu and, while Ollie Lawrence and Bundee Aki have both been outstanding recently, the 27-year-old Australian-born centre has consistently shown he has the power, distribution skills and decision-making to start at inside centre for the Lions.

Aki may have been nominated for the 2024 Six Nations Player of the Championship, off the back of an excellent World Cup as well, but he’ll be 35 next summer and have even more miles on the clock whereas Tuipulotu will be just coming into his prime and knows Russell inside out as well.

England have been improving and will hopefully continue to do so over the next 12 months but they’re still in transition and I’ve only been able to make the case for three to be included in the starting XV, two of which have exploded onto the international scene this year.

Immanuel Feyi-Waboso can simply do things that most other players can only dream of and he’s already showing real intelligence and an ability to get his hands on the ball more and more to go with the power, fast footwork and lethal finishing we’d already seen. I’d have him in over Duhan van der Merwe any day of the week.

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The other England newby who I believe can not only make the Test team but play a starring role in a series win over the Wallabies is Chandler Cunningham-South, who may only have seven caps to his name but is just a phenomenally physically gifted athlete and has just had a really good tour to New Zealand.

Fellow back rower Sam Underhill has described the Harlequins man as a “freak athlete” and said he hasn’t seen anyone with as much raw power before and his 6ft 5in frame and ball-carrying ability are just what’s needed when you take into account the opposition and conditions.

Some people might be surprised that he’s in there ahead of Ben Earl, who was also nominated for the Six Nations Player of the Championship this year and has arguably been England’s best player since he was finally given a starting berth, but I’ve gone for size and athletic ability at blindside.

Jac Morgan is the one Welshman who would make my Lions Test team and I know he hasn’t played an international game since the World Cup and has struggled with knee and hamstring injuries but he’s the best out and out openside we have and has credit in the bank from an outstanding tournament on the biggest stage of all last year.

Caelan Doris completes the back row, is possibly the easiest pick of all and would be my captain as things stand after he led Ireland to victory over the Springboks in Durban last week. The 26-year-old doesn’t seem to have any weaknesses, raises his game for the big occasions and is now showing real leadership qualities too.

The Lions will need ball carriers all over the pitch if they’re going to emerge victorious Down Under and those in the back row will be ably assisted by Ellis Genge, Dan Sheehan and Tadhg Furlong in the front row, who would have to up there with the best front row combination in the loose we’ve ever seen.

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Sheehan is a try-scoring machine, Furlong can distribute almost as well as he can scrummage and Genge at his best is one of the most destructive carriers and most combative figures in world rugby.

In the engine room, George Martin is definitely in the mix with his growing reputation as England’s enforcer and Maro Itoje is always going to be there or thereabouts but I can’t see past the Ireland pairing of Joe McCarthy and Tadhg Beirne.

The former provides the ballast, work rate and dominance in defence and attack that you need from your tighthead lock and the latter is a nuisance at the breakdown, a menace at the lineout, hits a ton of rucks and is a real threat with ball in hand as well. They’re about as close as you can get to the perfect second row combination.

The forwards are a bit more Irish dominated than the backs but I don’t think anyone can argue that Jamison Gibson-Park and James Lowe are deserving of their places in the Lions starting XV.

Antoine Dupont is probably the only scrum-half above Gibson-Park in the global pecking order at the moment and Lowe’s cannon of a left boot gives him an advantage over other players but his strength, pace and eye for a try are enough to get him selected on their own anyway.

And, outside centre might seem like one of the most difficult positions to call right now but I really feel that’s only because Garry Ringrose missed almost the whole of this year’s Six Nations and another few months of Leinster’s campaign with a shoulder injury.

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Robbie Henshaw has deputised well for him in a green jersey but isn’t as natural an outside centre, Henry Slade has impressed since his return to the England fold and Huw Jones has had a good season for Glasgow and Scotland but Ringrose is world class on both sides of the ball.

I’d be surprised if there were fewer than eight Irishmen in Farrell’s starting team for the first Test in Brisbane but the handful of Englishmen and Scots and one Welshman add further power, creativity and breakdown ability which should create a potent mix.

The Wallabies are enjoying a bit of a resurgence already under Joe Schmidt, although things couldn’t get any worse than they were under Eddie Jones, but the Lions will be favourites to win the series.

There’s still a fair bit of water to go under the bridge between now and then and injuries may well rule out a few of the aforementioned players but the Tests between Ireland and South Africa, England and New Zealand and Wales and Australia have given us more insight into who might nail down those famous red starting Lions Test jerseys.

The likes of Doris, Lowe, McCarthy, Furlong, Beirne and co have all enhanced their cases, while Cunningham-South and Feyi-Waboso in particular have shown they have a point of difference that could prove incredibly useful indeed to Farrell in his quest to get the better of Schmidt.

The Wallabies will be better after another 12 months of working with the former Ireland head coach but a 3-0 series whitewash for the Lions is a distinct possibility and this is a team that is definitely capable of achieving that.

My British & Irish Lions Starting XV

15 Blair Kinghorn

14 Immanuel Feyi-Waboso

13 Garry Ringrose

12 Sione Tuipulotu

11 James Lowe

10 Finn Russell

9 Jamison Gibson-Park

1 Ellis Genge

2 Dan Sheehan

3 Tadhg Furlong

4 Joe McCarthy

5 Tadhg Beirne

6 Chandler Cunningham-South

7 Jac Morgan

8 Caelan Doris (c)

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Bull Shark 150 days ago

I for one would back taking the Ireland team to Australia. They’re the best team in the world after all.

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Dan 151 days ago

He might as well take the Ireland team.

Wales just lost to Australia and scraped passed one of their club sides. So no point picking any Taffs.

Scotland are South African, so that rules them out.

And English players are wasted on the Lions. So that just leaves the Irish. Send them over and treat it like an Ireland summer tour.

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Anthony 152 days ago

Good pick . With Willis if his form continues .
It does sit uncomfortably however with a lions team to have new Zealanders in . Yes. This raises another argument but this is a combined uk and Ireland team .
Somewhat different to six nations teams .
Finn.
Ford hasn’t made a lions team yet and with Smiths form won’t make England either .Yesterday’s man .
Will Farrell pick from international teams or select players from France .
Lots of water to go under the bridge yet .

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Keith 152 days ago

Two Welshman selected by an Englishman

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Keith 152 days ago

Good to see two selected

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finn 152 days ago

picking today I’d go with:

15 - Keenan
14 - Graham or Hansen
13 - Ringrose
12 - Aki
11 - van der Merwe
10 - Ford
9 - Gibson-Park
8 - Doris
7 - Earl
6 - Lawes
5 - McCarthy
4 - Ryan
3 - Porter
2 - Sheehan
1 - Schoeman

but in 12 months time I wouldn’t be surprised if Osbourne is given a starting berth ahead of either Keenan, Ringrose, or Aki; Ford is replaced by Crowley; & Lawes is replaced by either Ollie Chessum or George Martin - with the other going toe-to-toe with James Ryan for the second row spot.

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Barry 152 days ago

No Aki? He’s better than Ringrose & Tuipulotu combined. Probably the best defensive centre in the NH.

Sheehan is risky. I don’t see how he shakes off an ACL and regains match fitness in a single season.

I don’t think Fin Russell would be Farrells type of player. Too much of a renegade. They need a steady ship for their back line.

I think Itoje would get the nod to start at 4.

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Colin 152 days ago

The picking of foreign born and bred players should not be part of the Lions selection, only home born and bred players. As an Englishman, Slade is not as good as Daly at 13. The issue is England coaches continue to pick Daly on the wing when he is a natural 13. And let’s face it Australia are hardly going to be a tough opposition, even 12 months on.

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Rhodri 152 days ago

Porter at 1

Lake at 2

Itoje at 4

Rest is spot on.

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J P 152 days ago

Farrell’s away from Ireland for the Six Nations so would expect a dip of some form. Goodman's appointment will likely take the attack backwards just as it has with Leinster. That being said:

  • Porter will be at 1\n\n
  • Christ knows what condition Sheehan will come back in. Bad ACL’s can be career ending so wouldn't assume he'll be there.\n\n
  • Beirne may not even be playing lock for Ireland next season if James Ryan returns to full fitness and form so wouldn't count him in. He also can't run a lineout so wouldn't be surprised to see Itoje get in there ahead of him.\n\n
  • Martin over McCarthy at present.\n\n
  • Reffell at 7\n\n
  • Given JGP will run the game, Marcus Smith would be my bet for the 10 jersey\n\n
  • Mack Hansen seems to have been completely forgotten about in these conversations and wouldn't be surprised to see him in there given Farrell likes having extra playmakers everywhere.

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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