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'It was substantially a bigger offer than he received from Saracens'

Rhys Carré (Photo by Johan Pretorius/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

Cardiff Blues head coach John Mulvihill has questioned prop Rhys Carre’s decision to join Saracens.

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The 21-year-old made his first Guinness PRO14 start for the club in February against Edinburgh but had featured heavily off the bench for much of the season as an impact sub.

Despite his size (6’3, 132kg) the youngster is renowned for his ability around the pitch as a powerful ball carrier.

The former Wales Under-20 international is also eligible to play for England and Ireland.

Speaking with the BBC Mulvihill believes Carre’s decision to move may backfire.

“It could be a big blow to him and his pathway,” he said.

“He has had some really good development through all the under-age pathways and you have got people who are here for him and to make him better.

“When we did finally sit down and talk with him it was substantially a bigger offer than he received from Saracens.

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“So that was probably the disappointing thing that it’s not about money. He just felt his development would be a lot quicker in leaving.

“Sometimes in development the best place is right in front of your face, but he could not see it. Sometimes people make decisions and we move on.”

The so-called ‘Gatland rule’ means only players who’ve picked up 60 caps or more are eligible for selection when plying their trade outside Wales. However a loophole means because he’s not picked up a senior cap yet it does not apply. Carre is not the first person to take advantage of that loophole, fellow-prop Tomas Francis has availed of it, because he signed his deal before the Gatland rule came into place.

“I know he has spoken to Wayne and the current Wales coaches, but that could have possibly come too late,” the Cardiff Blues coach said.

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“I still believe his best way forward would have been to stay and he would be in the Wales set-up in the next 12-14 months.

Mulvihill also confirmed that ‘Project Reset’ did have an effect, with Saracens pouncing on uncertainty surrounding the club game in Wales.

“When you have that window, people come in and have a look and that is what has happened with Rhys.”

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GrahamVF 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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