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'It will rile him for a long time': Exeter revisit Dave Ewers ban

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Rob Baxter has revealed how devastated Dave Ewers was over missing out on the business end of last season with Exeter and at losing out on a long-awaited England call which Eddie Jones has said he was set to get for the summer series. The wrecking-ball forward was banned for four matches after he contested the citing that following his yellow-carding a round 22 Gallagher Premiership match versus Sale. 

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Exeter boss Baxter was livid amid the fallout from a massively contested match in which second-rower Sam Skinner was red-carded. Both Skinner and Ewers contested the charges, which resulted in no mitigation getting applied to their suspensions.

Baxter’s disappointment, though, wasn’t focused on the length of respective bans. Instead, he was upset with the decision-making that resulted in the Exeter duo getting in trouble in the first place and how the resulting disciplinary system doesn’t show any empathy to the modern-day player.

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A Premiership player of the year nominee whose impressive form this season ensured he featured on the six-strong shortlist for an award ultimately won by Exeter colleague Sam Simmonds, Ewers had previously been involved years ago at England Saxons level but the uncapped Harare-born player hadn’t figured into the Test fold under Jones since spring training in 2016. 

That was all set to change only for his yellow card citing to intervene and leave suspended on the sidelines rather than playing in the Premiership semi-final and final for Exeter and then going on with England. Ewers made his return to the Exeter line-up for the first time this season in their win last Sunday at Sale.

Asked by RugbyPass to reflect on how Ewers performed in Manchester following on from his massive end-of-season setback, Exeter boss Baxter said: “Dave was very hurt by having to miss the semi-final and final and he was due to join the England squad. Not just the fact that he missed out but the circumstances and how he missed out will rile him for a long time, but I know for a fact that he has definitely used it in a very motivating manner. I can tell that every time I talk to him. 

“I spoke to him straight after the final and he was very, very emotional post the final to the stage where he was very emotional, very upset by what happened. All I can say is he has said to me a couple of times he is never going to let that scenario happen again. He is going to make the most of every opportunity he gets to get us back to where he would like to see us involved in those games.

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“For a first-up performance having come into the team after a long period of rehab from his thumb operation, he actually had another small op as well, I thought he was outstanding (last Sunday). He carried the ball for us, stood up, was one of our guys who was prepared to break down the brick wall that you get early in a game. He gave us a real solidity in most of what we did and a real physicality. You can see the influence he has on the team.”

Having vehemently said his piece about the disciplinary inconsistencies he felt Exeter encountered last June regarding the Ewers and Skinner cases, Baxter added that the concerns he raised helped to ensure the disciplinary framework has been discussed not only at RFU level but by World Rugby.

“I’m not going to say it was what happened with us that completely forced these changes,” he said, replying to a follow-up RugbyPass query on the legacy of his frustration four months ago. “I said at the time that there needed to be some thought put into not just the process of how the red and yellow cards were given but also the disciplinary process and to be fair to David Barnes at the RFU, we had a long catch-up about it. 

“We also had a long catch-up with RPA about it and there are some things that are happening around there. At World Rugby level there has definitely been some debate on some things like should there still be some level of mitigation if you plead guilty? That is an ongoing debate that is happening at the moment. 

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“There is also some debate around how if it is a referee’s red card you have got to prove the referee wrong but if the referee gives a yellow card and the citing commissioner says it is a red card, then you are not proving the referee wrong because he had been deemed to be wrong and you have got to prove the citing is wrong. 

“So they are talking and they are thinking about it and they are actively getting involved with the players and I do feel there seems to be a little bit more understanding of what becomes a rugby incident and the mitigations that generally happens within a rugby game. It was interesting when we went to Twickenham in pre-season the referees body showed some incidents where they felt there was mitigation, a tackle that did make contact with the head wasn’t a red card and got mitigated down to a yellow.

“If that level (of mitigation) had been put into our game at the end of last season it probably would have been two yellow cards. I do think it is an ongoing process with everybody adapting to a genuine understanding of what is a rugby incident, what is mitigation and then in the disciplinary process where can mitigation still be added, where can you still have some level of your sentence reduced even if you don’t plead guilty? That is being debated at World Rugby level. There is an ongoing process there that I’m pleased to see. 

“We have all got to be aware of the process and protect the players and their welfare. Anyone who watches rugby sees incidents where you will just go, ‘Well, that is just a complete accident’ and we will all also watch incidents where you go, ‘That is a pretty deliberate act to try and smack this guy as hard as you can’. 

“But I always felt this was the weakness of the process, that it was very stepped and staged without really allowing a referee that ability to mitigate to a rugby scenario. We are starting to see a levelling out of that which for me makes us feel all that more comfortable. I’m a big believer that a red card should look like a red card where most of us watching go, ‘Whoa, it’s a red card!’ That’s how I personally like to think they should be done and hopefully that is what we are starting to see a bit more now.”

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JPM 55 minutes ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

Unfortunately you don't know anything about French rugby, coaches and players but still making a lot of assumptions and judgements to push your prefabricated and simplistic point of view that Dupont is manipulating everything and is a bad guy. I am not a NZ rugby specialist and wouldn't dare make such theories about what is going on within the ABs team. Therefore my advice to you is to do like Dupont and stay humble when you don't know all the background of the issues !!!


Firstly if you knew a bit of Galthié, he is not the type of coach who is going to ask advice to his players and even his captain about team selection. He is as stubborn as you...


Second Ramos has played a lot of times as 10 with Toulouse and therefore Dupont (in particular when Ntamack is injured and unfortunately it has often happened recently and for long periods). He even played 10 during the last 3 games of the 2024 6N and this was far better performance than the first two games with Jalibert as 10.


Thirdly Jalibert lacked of respect to a La Rochelle player so your theory is once again out.


Fourth as I explained to you Galthié went for a 6-2 bench and Jalibert can only play 10 which doesn't fit that plan. Furthermore as 15 Buros is better under high balls than Ramos and everybody is prepared for a tactical kicking game.


So you can blame Galthié for a lot of things (as you clearly enjoy doing at the end of your post and you should be very happy as an AB fan) but certainly not Dupont. Sorry once more for your conspiracy theory.


And don't worry about potential disharmony in the French team; they are excellent mates around their captain. Jalibert is well known in the French rugby circles to have not a strong character (and we saw that in the WC quarter finals as he is very nervous in any decisive international game unlike Ntamack and Ramos as for his late penalty kick vs England this year).


In conclusion enjoy the game tmrw night. It is good that the ABs are very upset; we should watch a great game of rugby. I hope for running rugby and not too much kicking. With 5 key players injured on our side (Ntamack, Baille, Atonio, Cros and Penaud) and 2 on your side I and various French fans see you as favourites. I obviously hope for another result.


If you are interested you can read a good article in the Guardian on the subject of France-NZ games.

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KB 58 minutes ago
The 'one difference' between Boks and the back-to-back All Blacks

Consistency hasnt been there they have many great players SA were also not unbeaten in the 2023 WC - NZ were in 2015 WC McCaw and Carter Nonu and Smith - SA did not have those Marque players in those postions in 2019 or 2023 - I wouldnt rank them ahead of the 20I5 ABs - They clocked up 60 points against France in the QF - Furthermore I do not believe for one moment SA won 2023 fairly no way - they were so favoured it became obvious that behind the scenes SA the nation bought the title - Their last 3 matches were won by a solitary point there were many contentious decisions that went their way that it became obvious it wasnt coincidence - Sport has been hijacked by a satanic cult just as is Politics

Some players coaches officials and sponsors are involved - they know who they are - its called Freemasonry - any sport that allows betting is corrupt - its not all about money either for these parasites its also about control - Lots of American NFL players have spoken openly about games being scripted - Football is also rigged Referees have been caught on film showing freemason hand signs - The 95 RWC final ranks as the highest and most obvious attempt at cheating There was no way SA were going to allow NZ to gate crash Nelson Mandelas reunification party - NZ were so good they had to posion almost the entire team to get a 3 point win - a Hollywood Movie ( theres your Red Flag ) was made about SAs triumph called Invictus


William Henley wrote a poem called Invictus


It starts


Out of the night that covers me BLACK ( All Blacks ) as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever GODS maybe for my unconquerable Soul ...( Olan says INVICTUS is an evil Malevolent entity who corrupted the Titans ... this is Mandelas double meaning speech ( hes a fraud ) - of thanks for helping overcome SA's adversary NZ - There is only ONE true God Yahuah - Only a false god would be complicit in Cheating Corruption and Harming others to win a RWC for a sick and sinful Nation ) the poem ends with


I am the CAPTAIN of my soul


SA will forever bear the stain of guilt and disgrace over their involvement in poisoning the ABs a day before the 95 RWC Final

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CO 1 hour ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

I cannot believe that you don't think the French rugby team coach and captain are not discussing putting Jalibert on the bench in favour of Duponts club teammate that doesn't even play at 10.


This is a terrible, massive insult to a 10 and I'm sure Dupont would also be very enraged if benched for a player that doesn't even play halfback.


A good captain would've insisted to the coach that it was an idea of madness and either select Jalibert or replace him with another 10 if you want him to be reserve.


Jalibert may not be the world's finest tacklers but that's often not a tens main strength that the loose forwards and second five cover. An intercept pass is never great but they happen.


When any player is playing for his club then it's club first, respect doesn't need to be shown to opposition players simply because they're internationals.


Who exactly are you claiming Jalibert hasn't respected? If it's Toulouse international players then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this bench demotion out.


The outcome of selecting Jalibert to the bench and he then throwing his croissants out the window of the team bus immediately prior to playing the Allblacks is a disaster that will be team disharmony as any team mates of Jalibert are in a state of anger and revolt so a performance that will be sub optimal against a team that is thirsting for revenge against France.


I don't know about you but the Allblacks are very upset they've lost twice in a row to France and want to put out a statement performance so this preparation by Galthie of creating havoc looks to me like a coach that is clueless.

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